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Yes, that prospect was raised by a BBC journo this morning. Its going to be hellishly difficult to supervise the collection and removal of this kit in the middle of a war.
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Dead pan:
Yes, that prospect was raised by a BBC journo this morning. Its going to be hellishly difficult to supervise the collection and removal of this kit in the middle of a war. |
It is just a red herring. A delaying tactic.
Assad will never allow intrusive enforcement. And he will insist on lots of conditions. Perhaps he will request all states stop their aid to the opposition (military or otherwise), and engage the US in confidence building, ie a couple of tons out of Syria every month in exchange for the above mentioned actions. Putin, Iran, and the UN will perceive such actions to be positive and continue supporting a diplomatic solution. Putin and Assad will twist this into an Assad wins situation. Lots of Sunnis and Kurds will die. And at the end of the process Assad will still have lots of chemical weapons. Obama should launch tonight whilst he still has some surprise. |
Eclectic:
It is just a red herring. A delaying tactic. Assad will never allow intrusive enforcement. And he will insist on lots of conditions. Perhaps he will request all states stop their aid to the opposition (military or otherwise), and engage the US in confidence building, ie a couple of tons out of Syria every month in exchange for the above mentioned actions. Putin, Iran, and the UN will perceive such actions to be positive and continue supporting a diplomatic solution. Putin and Assad will twist this into an Assad wins situation. Lots of Sunnis and Kurds will die. And at the end of the process Assad will still have lots of chemical weapons. Obama should launch tonight whilst he still has some surprise. |
You could just launch it all into the med :E
That's got to be a nightmare job, recovering that little lot in the middle of a war, no doubt somewhere along the line Hague will be volunteering the Army to go in to get it and the RAF to fly it out. |
Practical problems in re removal of Syrian stockpile of chem weapons, and whatever remains of it as of this writing ...
1. How does one confirm where "it all is?" 2. How does one control shipment of it out of Syria, during a civil war? 3. How does one detect some of it going astray? 4. Who is charged with protecting the movements to container ship in whatever port is chosen. (Do you ship it all to Jordan over land? :eek: ) Answers on a post card. |
Just like I predicted: REUTERS: Putin says Syria chemical weapons handover will only work if US rejects use of force.
Conditions, conditions, conditions. Putin and Assad have no good intentions, just narrow self interest. They are playing the West. And the elephant in the room is Iran. With Obama a dead duck the road is clear for the mad mullahs to go nuclear. Which they would be very happy to use. btw Assad has about 1,000 tons of chemical agents and Sarin has a lethal concentration for 1 minute exposure of 0.1 to 0.07 mg per human. So he can kill everyone on planet earth several times over. |
Hopefully the Russians can get a resolution through the security council which does not have any mention of military action in it, the French one is full of threats. Seems a bad way to go about it. Good job we have Putin the peacemaker on the the case, great man that he is.
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Still got the thumb screw on huh.
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The US, UK and France are to table a UN Security Council resolution but Russia has already indicated opposition. The resolution will call on Syria to publicly declare that it has a chemical weapons programme, place it under international control and dismantle it. But French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said he had spoken on Tuesday to Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov, who told him that Moscow was not in favour of a binding UN resolution. So it appears Assad will continue to get Russia's unconditional support, no matter what he does (or does not do). |
REUTERS: Putin says Syria chemical weapons handover will only work if US rejects use of force |
With Obama a dead duck the road is clear for the mad mullahs to go nuclear. Which they would be very happy to use. |
UN resolution on Syria to test if Russian chemical weapons plan is 'ruse' | World news | theguardian.com
From 'Putin the peacemaker' to 'Putin the peace faker' in the space of 24 hours. He ain't all that smart. |
This is a no-lose deal from our point of view; whichever side wins there, we don't want them having sarin etc. And it doesn't necessarily stop those who feel that lobbing in a load of missiles will solve things from doing so at some later date if they really want to.
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Ah yes of course, my misunderstanding. It is a fact that they have nuclear reactors and would more than likely wish to obtain a nuclear weapon. I wasn't aware that they had a death wish and had stated that they would be more than happy to use such a weapon if they had it.
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C&P:
JUST IN: U.S. House Democrat Chris van Hollen just told me on CNN International that a proposed House resolution on Syria would give the president 30 days to work out a credible plan on chemical weapons before he would be allowed to use military force. “There are thirty days, and in that thirty days the president can continue to try to work out the solution. If after thirty days the president says that we have either secured that chemical stockpile or that’s there’s a credible plan to do it, then you would not proceed with limited force. But if makes another determination, he would be allowed to go forward.” CNN |
Originally Posted by LoneWolf
(Post 1450) Answers on a post card.
As for you "I'd rather be lucky than good", it got me through 30 years in the RAF and my fast jet years. :ok: |
Interesting map: http://images1.ynet.co.il/PicServer3.../4851307/3.jpg This is big and detailed so resizing it would reduce its value. Also I am not hosting it. Date of production of map FEB 2012. |
Why does "Date of production of map FEB 2012" make it fake?
Someone has taken a commercial map and added the data. You can do that sort of stuff these days with computers. |
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