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CoffmanStarter 12th Mar 2013 13:30

More from Commander Ward
 
Posted in the last 12 Hours ...


The “Security team” is the Armed Forces and ‘the member that talks a lot’ but is ‘unable to live up to its words in action’ is the Royal Air Force. The RAF has been resting on the laurels of the Battle of Britain for 70 years
Sharkey's World

:ugh:

He needs to fix his server latency ...

NB. It's quite possible some of these "papers" aren't new but uploaded to a new host ... anyway thought I'd share

Nimbus20 12th Mar 2013 13:43

RAF - the evil darkness
 
just ignore, or read and chuckle. Once credibility & impartiality are considered to be AWOL.......

Do you not recall the "French taunters" in Holy Grail.

OR is he correct - should we have a witch hunt and a mass burning?

Someone should really "fix" his server latency - then there's no problem!

Chris Griffin 12th Mar 2013 13:44

Who cares?

The partial ramblings of someone who retired decades ago are of little consequence.

I reckon Ward will be a bundle of laughs in his care home in the Caribbean.

Torque Tonight 12th Mar 2013 14:09

Dear oh dear. He's still at it, his one man maritime jihad. If he hadn't been droning on like this for 20 years I'd put it down to Alzheimers.

To be serious, its rather a sad that a gentleman who earnt some genuine credibility in the Falklands, consistently ruins what would otherwise be his good name by spouting narrow minded, obsolescent, petty and tedious drivel which does no favours to any of the services. Give it a rest shippers.

just another jocky 12th Mar 2013 14:15


Originally Posted by a deluded ex-Naval aviator
However this very expensive weapon system (inflation linked, at higher cost than our 2 new carriers and air groups) was used in Iraq during Operation DESERT STORM. 8 Tornado fighter bomber aircraft were lost during the confrontation; the majority of these losses occurring during the delivery of the JP 233 weapon against Iraqi airfields.



Simply untrue.

And an insult to those brave comrades who died.

And if something as blindingly obvious as that is untrue, just how accurate/unbiased are the rest of his ramblings.

Seriously, some of you Navy guys out there need to get a grip on this guy, he's a shameful embarrassment. :mad:

Courtney Mil 12th Mar 2013 14:29

It just keeps getting better with each one he writes, although I'm not sure who he thinks is going read or take any notice of his demented ranting.

Unfortunately, he seems to have run out of new ideas and has resorted to recycling the same old tired arguments so that his reader (singular) will be getting the impression that his measured deliberations and insightful analysis are starting, just starting mind you, to look a bit threadbare. His reader might also wonder if Sharkey Ward is now so twisted with bitterness and loathing that he's becoming ever so slightly unhinged.

:zzz:


Originally Posted by JAJ
Seriously, some of you Navy guys out there need to get a grip on this guy, he's a shameful embarrassment.

:D:D:D:D:D

CoffmanStarter 12th Mar 2013 14:46

Wouldn't it be amusing to drop a "Flour Bomb" (couple of ton feels about right ... Light Blue in colour of course) on his Beech Hut in Granada ... Not to difficult to get a couple of Tonkas out there ... thus demonstrating our (RAF) ability to hit global targets :E

Would also have the added benefit of visibly trashing his arguments ...

Perhaps a bit too aggressive Coff :=

Courtney Mil 12th Mar 2013 14:55

Liking the light blue flour bomb plan. We should have no shortage of vounteers. But, of course, they'd certainly be shot down - I know this because Cdr Ward (ret'd1) said so.

1 = Retarded

thunderbird7 12th Mar 2013 15:03

If only we still had the Sea Harrier, we'd be able to take over the world.... :ugh:

Courtney Mil 12th Mar 2013 15:17

Oh my God! It just keeps getting better. I've just found the "About Me" bit in Sharkey's World. First this picture

http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-i0...12-c/photo.jpg

And then...


Originally Posted by Sharkey Ward
Introduced the Royal Navy Sea Harrier to service in 1979 after flying the Phantom F4K from the deck of the fourth HMS Ark Royal. Commanded 801 Naval Air Squadron during the Falklands War. I was then known as Mr Sea Harrier.

I don't know whether to pee myself laughing or vomit.

Fareastdriver 12th Mar 2013 15:23

All the sharks I have seen have got a better set of teeth than that.

Rhino power 12th Mar 2013 15:24

The decision to axe Harrier was bonkers you know...

-RP

30mRad 12th Mar 2013 15:26

He does display a remarkable failure to report facts. In particular the StormShadow/Tomahawk/Libya section. Someone should point out the failure rates of the Tomahawk vs SS - SS achieved 100%, and he is comparing apples with sliced bread (different weapons for different purposes).

I do not fight for either service (despite my loyalties) - we should be, and are, providing the best for Defence regardless of colour of uniform. He forgets that, and singularly argues against the RAF. He would do better to argue for Defence.

I have to hand it to him - he spins a good dit, and sounds authorative even though he is wrong on many counts.

Retire and be done.

Courtney Mil 12th Mar 2013 15:29


Originally Posted by Rhino power
The decision to axe Harrier was bonkers you know...

Yeah, but I'm really starting to like the decision to axe Sea Harrier, simply because it must be agonizingly annoying to the old bearded one. :E

orca 12th Mar 2013 15:35

Chaps,

If, as you say, he is simply an embarassment peddling non-truths then I am sure he will only, in time, defeat himself and we can all rest easy. We seem to have got ourselves into a cycle of 'Look what Ward says - Rubbish - Burn him, he's a witch - Look what he's said now!'

As many have said on this and other threads, those of us actually at the coal face are all still committed to making this work - and I remain to be convinced that retired officers or those still serving of far greater rank than I - both groups being the natural predators of Jointery - will dissuade us from doing so any time soon.

Courtney Mil 12th Mar 2013 15:43


Originally Posted by orca
retired officers or those still serving of far greater rank than I - both groups being the natural predators of Jointery

Not even close, Mate. As a retired officer I can certainly never be accused of being or having been a predator of Jointery. Sharky's a completely different issue, though.

CoffmanStarter 12th Mar 2013 16:01

Orca ... You are perfectly correct on the need for front line jointery ... But this guy can cause harm ... For example Politicians are only too fond of selectively using information for their own agendas. Ward used the Press effectively over the loss of the Sea Harrier ... :ok:

Neptunus Rex 12th Mar 2013 16:02

The first time I heard "Jointery" put forward as the way to go was in 1960, when I was a Grammar School Army Cadet. In 1963 I joined the RAF and in all my service as a Maritime Pilot, I found that the Army were very keen on Jointery, but the RN considered themselves to be the Senior Service and the rest of Her Majesty's Services to be somewhat below them.

What were they smokin' at Dartmouth?

just another jocky 12th Mar 2013 16:04

I think it is entirely fair to point out his lies and factual errors. Just because we all know on here doesn't mean that Joe Public isn't taken in by him. As long as we keep balancing his tosh with facts, we will counter his anti-RAF propaganda.

If you search "Sharkey Ward" on Google, P Prune is the 3rd reply headed "more RAF bashing from Sharkey" so at least we stand a chance of folk realising that he spouts utter bolleaux.

CoffmanStarter 12th Mar 2013 16:15

NR ... Perhaps a bit harsh. I have a number of RN friends up to the Rank of Commander ... all are up for a bit of leg pulling but all three Services will have Tw@ts who think they are something different ... but thankfully a very small minority :ok:

Some people display Prize Tw@tness though ... See OP !


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