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MightyGem 23rd Feb 2013 21:51

John Sergeant and The Sea King, 28th Feb
 
After his programme on the Spitfire in 2011, he returns with one about the Sea King:
Archie returns to aviation with BBC2 Realscreen

smujsmith 24th Feb 2013 18:21

Bit of a lad our John, reminds me of many an old Herk Captain ( A certain Colin comes to mind). I suspect, if he was ever in the mob, he would be out in mufti with his service shoes on every night ! But nice to see an attempt to pay credit to the aircraft and its crews. Look forward to it.

Rosevidney1 24th Feb 2013 19:41

Why oh why do 'celebrities' get involved in specialist subjects far beyond their understanding? For the money of course, but why should a television company commission a 'celeb' instead of somebody who really knows his stuff? Do they really think nobody will watch unless a recognisable 'name' is tied to it? Then again, it is the BBC and we pay for the entire bloated broadcasting empire.

smujsmith 24th Feb 2013 19:58

I would hate to cast any nasturtiums on your dissertation "Rose", but, I think the reason that people like him are used is that they will pull in a wider, more diverse, viewership than one that has only fact and "specialist opinion" to offer. Personally the thought of watching an hour long programme on the Sea King, narrated by John Nicholson (Tornado Navigator) would ensure my TV never got near the channel. I agree with your thoughts on the BBC, but think that John Sarjent is a good choice to present a program which should give due respect to the aircraft and its crews, whilst, having a bit of banter to keep the non anoraks engaged.

Smudge

ExAscoteer 24th Feb 2013 20:47

WTF would Nichol know about the Sea King FFS?

Oh that's right, after getting shot down owing to him having a switch pigs, he became the UK expert on all things aviation.






NOT!

smujsmith 24th Feb 2013 21:00

Exactly, what you said !!

PeregrineW 24th Feb 2013 21:29

I like John Sergeant's style of presentation, personally speaking. He has a good reputation as a journalist, so I'd expect his research to be up to scratch. Thanks for the heads up re the programme, I'll be putting it on the planner.

airborne_artist 24th Feb 2013 21:34

JS may look and act like a friendly uncle but he was a formidable journalist in his time.

John Sergeant (journalist) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Tengah Type 24th Feb 2013 21:37

John Nichol perchance?

Geezers of Nazareth 24th Feb 2013 22:17

Would it work with John S presenting the program alongside somebody who *is* an expert ...? almost in a 'teach the celeb about ...' scenario. John S gets to ask questions about it, introduce a few stories about it, gets shown around it, but the expert is the one with all the knowledge and stories.

It doesn't really matter what the *it* is - it could be a corporation dustcart, a steam engine, a Sea King, a nuclear submarine. We all know that the star of the show is the _thing_, but I'd rather have the story told by an expert.

When you think back to the program about the last days of the Shackleton (was that really 20 years ago?!), the Shack was the star, and the RAF personnel telling their stories were the experts, and the commentator was not seen on screen.

Willard Whyte 24th Feb 2013 23:21


Why oh why do 'celebrities' get involved in specialist subjects far beyond their understanding? For the money of course, but why should a television company commission a 'celeb' instead of somebody who really knows his stuff? Do they really think nobody will watch unless a recognisable 'name' is tied to it? Then again, it is the BBC and we pay for the entire bloated broadcasting empire.
Because, for the most part, experts, as exemplified by the many pedants who frequent these parts, are quite simply boring, blinkered, unintelligent [email protected]

NutLoose 25th Feb 2013 00:46


Bit of a lad our John, reminds me of many an old Herk Captain ( A certain Colin comes to mind). I suspect, if he was ever in the mob, he would be out in mufti with his service shoes on every night ! But nice to see an attempt to pay credit to the aircraft and its crews. Look forward to it.
Reminds me of showing some new guy around years ago, on asking how long he'd been out of the RAF, he said I never said I was in the RAF and how did I know, I pointed down at a nicely polished pair of RAF shoes :E

Looking forward to it, his last one was a damn good show, and not one of these boring bods talking tripe.

And if you never saw his last show, I would recommend it

Bomber Command
John Sergeant pays tribute to the aircrews of RAF Bomber Command who died serving their country and tells the stories of some of the surviving members, including bomb aimer Andy Wiseman, pilot Bill Lucas, rear gunners Bob Gill and Harry Irons, and navigator Harry Hughes. On June 28, the Queen unveiled a memorial in London's Green Park to honour the 55,573 men who gave their lives in bombing raids during the Second World War.

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euringineer 25th Feb 2013 04:29

RAF SHOES
 
In the 70/80s you could tell who was ex RAF in civil airlines by the shoes, socks and grey canvas nav bag ( aah nostalgia ).
Enthusiasts present the truth and journalists dont want to, why spoil a good story
It'll be HRH Andy in the Falklands and HRH Wills in the Highlands and the rest?

Stratofreighter 25th Feb 2013 12:11

The specifics:

BBC Two - The Sea King: Britain's Flying Past


Thu 28 Feb 2013 21:00 BBC Two

Sun 3 Mar 2013 18:30 BBC Two England only

Geezers of Nazareth 28th Feb 2013 13:01

One of the TV Listings web-sites for today has a comment about the show, and says 'as flown by HRH Prince Andrew during the Falklands War' ... I thought he flew the Lynx. I've certainly got a photo of the nose of an RN Lynx with 'HRH Prince Andrew' painted on it.

Seaking93 28th Feb 2013 13:12

HRH Prince Andrew certainly flew the Sea King HAS5 during the Falklands War, as a member of 820NAS and the airframe concerned(XZ574) is now on show in the Falklands 30 Exhibition at the Fleet Air Arm Museum, later he converted to the Lynx.

Thomas coupling 28th Feb 2013 13:25

Was he also 815 NAS?

Seaking93 28th Feb 2013 13:42

815NAS flying the Lynx

Banana Boy 28th Feb 2013 21:40

He's annoying me....keeps mentioning 'Culrose'. Could someone not have stressed the 'd'?

Megaton 28th Feb 2013 21:41

Argggghhhh he's just done it again.


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