AFPRB:- 2013 Pay rise anyone??
 

Have I got it wrong in thinking that our two year pay freeze is over and that a little extra ££ should be coming our way in about a months time?

A friend who enjoys a military pension has had none of the usual correspondance about incremental rise in pension either. The silence is deafening.

I am quite savvy to the state of the nation, but I am also fully aware of how much extra of my coppers dissapears into electricity, gas and forecourt taxation nowadays. It appears the Govt and Energy companies between them are burning the candle at both ends.

Those of us that 'enjoy a mil pension' will get CPI at whatever it was calculated at last Sep/Oct time. Still too early for the letter notifying the above.

Wasn't it an 'Up to 1%' payrise? Standing by for a 0.001%, while the pigatitions get their collective snout in the trough for another inflation busting pay rise...**** bags..:mad:

The September CPI was 2.2% for those on pensions. I don't normally get a letter just an update to show that the April & May figures will be increased (April as its a part month due to my date and May showing the whole increase). It normally reaches me after the April payment has gone through.

Consumer Price Indices

shows the monthly figures

Huey, maybe 1% in the pot and redistributed so as to improve morale in specific groups?

Cops, paramedics and other civil servants still have pay frozen and also annual increments on hold as well. Has cost my missus thousands in increments already. Dont expect too much!

The overall pay-bill is allowed to go up by 1%. It therefore doesn't have to be 1% across the board, but I'm sure it will be.

Don't forget that if it is 1%, then after tax it is either 0.8% for basic rate tax payers and 0.6% for the higher rate. I reckon my payrise will be just worth about £25 a month after tax - hardly enough to buy a family of 4 a decent meal from a supermarket (horse excluded!).

Hurrrumph...:*

LJ

According to the Daily Mail link, the 1% payrise doesn't kick in until 2014:

So I'm not sure who is right. I should probably be able to work it out for myself, but frankly, there have been so many policy announcements, u-turns and extensions to various aspects of austerity in the past few years, I have lost track of what's what other than the fact that George & his chums in HMRC seem to take more of my pay every month in one way shape or form.

Having just dug out the 2012 AFPRB report, it appears the Daily Mail is incorrect. There's a shocker.

However, it does look as though the X-Factor is up for review this year, so I'm wondering what the potential is to sneak a little extra in through a change there? A more realistic assessment of the motor mileage allowance would also be very welcome at a time when petrol prices are shooting through the roof thanks to a combination of a rapidly weakening pound and market speculation.

I shan't hold my breath for either though :sad:

Well, they might have been, but you've spilled the beans now, old chap.

B:mad:r ... nothing to see here, we are fully austerity compliant. Now move along please!

Edited to add - in all seriousness, they are going to have to do something sooner rather than later about pay. I know of 5 individuals, flt lt - gp capt, who have PVRd in the past 6 weeks and know of at least another 5 who are actively looking and will hit the button as soon as they can find something to go to. And despite the economic fragility, business service companies still seem to be taking people on, so I don't think the MOD can rely on the notion of a austerity preventing people from jumping ship for much longer.

It is all a matter of timing; the sine wave of discontent in the service and the sine wave of hiring in the civil sector. However with the services getting smaller and smaller then the effect on those people leaving has more impact.

That said this is nothing new. It has all happened before. This time though it looks like with the ROS of 5 years on PAS and other examples in other branches that at least manning are aware and attempting to do something about it.

The lack of a payrise though for individuals at the top of their paybands, will certainly increase those in the discontented pool.

Osborne has proven to be a master of timing with this. With Iraq and Afhganistan moving well out of the public gaze (clearly not for the poor sods out there for the next God knows how long), the likelihood of an outcry following a pi$$-poor service pay rise is slim to none. PVRs are not a fully effective weapon in a climate of redundancies and draw down, even if as we all know, the people going out of the door are usually the last ones you can afford to lose in a situation of perpetual undermanning. Once again, the government of the day will attempt to score political points with voters on the backs of service sacrifice - now there's something that never changes no matter how much you think it does.

PS. Jambo, oops - must have enabled the Vulcan mind meld with our posts!

It would have been nice if the payrise had rebalanced the recent loss of Family Allowance; but sadly it seems not.

As for MMA, I gave my accountant my MMA mileage and copies of JPA claims, and received the difference back from HMRC. (HMRC rate is 45p / mile) I am happy that the accountants invoice did not dilute the advantage and in any case, I would rather put money into a local business then the Govt wallet. Likewise, I felt rather smug recently about filling up my cars (sizeable) fuel tank* on the Continent rather then the UK. As you can see, loyalty is a two way street IMHO and these days I have much sympathy with tax exiles.

If you wind the clock back a few years, Pprune speculation and comments wrt pay would have begun pre-Christmas; are we all now institutionalised to accept the shafting we are getting?

*Diesel is cheaper than unleaded on the Continent, but not in the UK.

Watch with SFA rents go up by considerably more than any payrise, rumour has it by considerably more than inflation too. :*

Tiger_mate,

You're absolutely right, you can go about getting relief on the difference amongst other things you might be able to claim back. Unfortunately, if you're getting HTD then as it's a payment for commuting to your regular place of work rather than a meeting or temporary duty, you take a bit of a batting as that doesn't fall into the category of permitted claims.

and just to chip in.... the much discussed 2 year pay freeze is and always was a 2 years and 364 day freeze, assuming we get something this year. Apart from b'stard MP's, most normal people would actually call it a 3 year freeze!

I'm content with a 2.2% RAF pension increase, it matches the 2% the RCAF will get in 2013!:ok:

CWD

Any news? Cutting it kind of close aren't they?