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galaxy flyer 7th Jan 2013 20:16

First F-4M Photos
 
A friend sent exterior and cockpit B&W photos, probably by McAir, of YF-4M no. 1. RAF designation is XT 852 and the date is 17 Jul 67.

Anyone interested, I can send them on, no charge

GF

Courtney Mil 7th Jan 2013 20:29

Please. Yes, please.

CoffmanStarter 7th Jan 2013 20:45

Any chance you could scan and share GF ? ... even some if many :ok:


No ... :{

http://www.16airassaultbrigade.org/g...0001/xt852.jpg

Rhino power 7th Jan 2013 20:47

galaxy flyer, PM sent

-RP

galaxy flyer 8th Jan 2013 00:22

Yes, I'll try scanning and figure out sizing and posting.

Rhino Power & 54phan. I got your PMs, you guys sort who gets them.

GF

CoffmanStarter 8th Jan 2013 09:39

Cheers GF :ok:

phantomstreaker 8th Jan 2013 15:06

Would you please send me a copy if you would give permission to share on the British F-4 Appreciation Group on Facebook?

Thanks

54Phan 8th Jan 2013 16:45

PM sent to Rhino Power.
 
Thanks for sharing.:ok:

galaxy flyer 8th Jan 2013 20:16

Let me figure out "hosting" some of the scans. If there is an organization that would appreciate them, that would be perfect.

GF

LOMCEVAK 12th Jan 2013 13:51

GF,

I would certainly like copies if possible. I flew a few hours in 852 in the late '80s at Boscombe. Our F4K, XT897 (a pre-series aircraft), was down for a long time after a bad birdstrike so we used to borrow 852 from BAE every couple of months for some currency flying. When I first flew it it had only flown about 750 hours total and was like new. It was also slightly different from a standard FGR2/F4M in that it had the drooped ailerons and slatted tailplane like an F4K. It was a really nice jet and sad to see that it ended up on the fire dump at West Freugh.

dat581 12th Jan 2013 14:15

Does anyone else find it utterly shambolic that XT852 could not be saved just because some bureaucrat said no? I've found quite a few atempts to save the aircraft by various parties and all ignored by some pencil pusher.

Milo Minderbinder 12th Jan 2013 19:15

dat581
The original contract of sale to the UK mandated that none of the Phantoms could be resold once their service life had ended. They all had to be scrapped. Those still in existance are still - nominally - under UK military control. |The contract specified that NONE were to be allowed to be passed on for preservation.
Presumably the intention was to reduce risk of technology transfer, and also to protect the market for new aircraft.
I assume thats why the much suggested sale of the RAF Phantoms to Turkey never happened??


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