Thanks PN. In my day it was only used for Type 2 attacks scored by PPI and only on group exercises.
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BB, on one Groupex we had a tone malfunction - I switched it ON at bomb release. We claimed a malfunction and said the release w as X second earlier. As you know, scores were not passed to the aircraft in flight .
We pondered a while and on passing Ouston a second time amended our guess. When we landed the debrief team asked why we had two scores - they didn't say what they were. We bluffed and it seemed it worked. The first guess was 1600 off yards. The second around 400. I think BS accounted for quite a number of good scores. |
Slightly off thread but just a little dit in connection with Ouston.
It happened during the early Summer of 1962 at Linton when three Piston Provosts from Ouston decided to pay us a visit. I was on an RN JP/Vampire course at the time, sitting in the line-hut. We were all watching, fascinated, as we had just missed flying them and wanted a closer look. It was going well until the unannounced stream landing when 3 overtook 2, followed by 1, ..... on the runway ! The unforgettable screech of tyres by the Tower suggested something was not quite right as our Boss, Tommy Blackham, in his CFI Vauxhall Estate, tore across the grass to remonstrate ! The three never got to visit. They were instantly dispatched whence they came, one at a time, at five minute intervals, without even leaving the cockpit ! One of those indelible lessons that we all have learned, fortunately at someone else’s expense. |
The one instructor we all loved to fly with was Ernie Veitch Only time I visited here was to watch some rallying late 70s IIRC. |
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator
(Post 10131428)
Indeed there was.
At the time Ouston was also the only site with a jammer. This was from the B50 and required aircraft to fly a North easterly approach against a specific target that changed weekly. Shame really as East Anglia (Brantub) had had 3 jammers which would have given much better training . "This set of photos contains much of interest. The first two show various radar-equipped trailer vehicles in the background, and these were at Ouston for several years, parked well away from curious eyes. It is possible that their purpose was to track the RAF V-bombers that regularly in the early 1960s used Newcastle as a training target for low-level attacks from the West. Nuclear capable white painted Avro Vulcans regularly came low level along the Tyne Valley, climbing sharply and very loudly at Benwell, before banking sharply away at the top of their climb. This was the standard 'lob-bombing ' nuclear attack profile, and it is likely that the mobile radar units at Ouston were there to monitor the training, and award 'marks out of ten' to the trainees." I'm not ex-RAF, just a former Air Cadet, so I was trying to 'put two and two together'. During my school days at Rutherford in Newcastle (west end near Benwell), our assemblies and lessons were often shattered by the noise of a Vulcan or Victor climbing out on full power. All conversation ceased for several minutes. And one glorious morning it all co-incided with a new Centurion Tank being driven from Vickers, Scotwood, along the adjacent West Road down to the docks. That was the only thing that could top a Vulcan on full power! Clarification and comments welcome, please. |
The radar trailers in post 45 belonged to 735 Radar Bomb Scoring Unit where Iserved for a few months in 1965. Its role was to track V Force simulated bombing runs, and through a clever contraption of wheels, cogs and a plotting table, provide a bombscore in yards. Some attacks were indeed pop-ups from 500ft to 11000ft on various targets in the Tyneside area. Newcastle airport ATC had a veto over these runs and could call abort at any stage if there were conflictions. The unit did possess a very powerful jammer which could cause the nav radar some difficulty. Once the pop-up attack became obsolete Ouston Bombplot became redundant and moved to Coningsby where it was known as Tumby Bombplot, a more suitable area for low level bomb scoring. |
Originally Posted by Vulbuctor
(Post 10133643)
The unit did possess a very powerful jammer which could cause the nav radar some difficulty.
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Many thanks for the replies, and clarification, from 'Vulbuctor' and 'Pontious Navigator'. I'm delighted to finally, after a mere 52 years, have confirmation regarding the radar trailers parked at Ouston.
I'll amend my "RAF Ouston Research" website on Google, to give a better caption to the Pembroke photos. And fully credit the source of the information. I'm in the process of adding my 'spotters logs' to the website, and these will include several Vulcan and Victor sightings, all unfortunately without aircraft serial numbers. Is it too much to hope that some of these sightings might coincide with surviving crew logbook entries? It would also be of interest to know which RAF Squadrons or units were involved in th |
" climbing sharply and very loudly at Benwell " - no doubt aiming to "hit" the Ministry (DHSS) at Benton .....................
maybe they actually did................... |
Originally Posted by Heathrow Harry
(Post 10144969)
" climbing sharply and very loudly at Benwell " - no doubt aiming to "hit" the Ministry (DHSS) at Benton .....................
maybe they actually did................... Well one day, Phil Largeson, ex-OC12 but guesting from 1 Gp, saw a hole in the clouds just after turning off the LL route for the target. As the nav called climb Phil dived through the hole achieving 500 feet (with a downward vector) and now well passed the pop up point. Having got to 500 feet he rotated on full power and much greater angle of climb than normal. The aircraft, now at relatively low speed, max thrust, and at about 200 feet, dug out a field of cabbages. I do not recall how the rest of the bomb run went :) |
Apparently, planned to be the location for the UK's first Space Port HQ.
. " Ouston, we have a problem! ". :} Sorry couldn't resist! |
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"Apparently, planned to be the location for the UK's first Space Port HQ." Did you read The Great North Road too? f |
Ouston We Have A Problem
[QUOTE=Out Of Trim;10145743]Apparently, planned to be the location for the UK's first Space Port HQ.
Nothing to do with the bomb plot but a really off the wall situation where we found our ATC wing confined to camp because of foot and mouth disease restrictions. To eveyones delight PO blank actually contracted foot and mouth, as it only infected the cloven hoofed it just went to prove he really was a bit of a devil . " Ouston, we have a problem! ". :} Sorry couldn't resist![/Q |
For many years it was (is??) an overnight parking spot for N-warheads on the Faslane - Burghfield bus service..................
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Originally Posted by Duchess_Driver
(Post 10132055)
Schoolmaster, I believe from Newcastle. Met him several times many years ago when the AEF went to Leeming. Nice fella. Only time I visited here was to watch some rallying late 70s IIRC. |
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" Ouston, we have a problem! ". :} Sorry couldn't resist![/QUOTE] Very apt comment actually. Every time I try to google "Ouston" (to see if anything fresh comes up), google delights in offering 10 million entries for "Houston". And talking of UK space ports, I remember well as a lad, in Fenham in Newcastle on a still evening, clearly hearing the Blue Streak rocket test firing at Spadeadam in Cumberland. A mere 60-odd miles away! |
Yes - I remember him well. His son John lodged with us to complete his local schooling when his family were posted on.
Charles Dytham |
Long time RAF Ouston resident
I lived at Ouston, with my parents, from 1950 until it closed. We had a flat in the officers' mess + my father Stan Dytham was a chef there + in the airmans' mess too.
Charles Dytham |
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