Chuffin' Eck George...Try the MACC website
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Cheers,
Chig

Thanks for the bigger photo Samuel - lovely!

John Lucking
 

I'm sure he was on 87 at Bruggen the same time as Tony Russel and myself. Incidentally Peter Williams, ex 151 Javs .,has been in touch and I am in regular contact with my 151 pilot, Pip Stowell. Also contacted Peter Walsh a while back - not sure if he is still extant.
George

Samuel:
I guess that would include this one then:-[IMG]http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...linEscort1.jpg[/IMG]

Ah, Whisky. Ex 64 (I'm pretty sure) and out of Kuching, I think. gioing along for the ride on a jungle supply airdrop, we used to wave them in closer to get a better pic.

Fitter2, tail markings are 60 Sqdn...........

It's at Kuching, Fitter2. They had been covering our 48 Sqn Hastings doing supply drops on the border and we returned in close formation, performing a run-in and break at Kuching. They did say however that if we got bounced, by a Mustang for instance, our best bet was to get as low as possible, fly as slowly as possible, and turn as tightly as possible. If they'd fired a Firestreak at a pursuer it was just as likely to hit us! Mercifully such advice did not have to be acted upon.
You are right, sled dog, they were 60 Sqn.

Mea culpa - the pic was scaled too big to see the tail on my screen. Most of the 60 Sqn aircraft had 4 Firestreaks, the 64 add-ons retained the tanks on the inboards.

Samuel

A bigger but not much higher res pic.....

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...12at190247.jpg

I used to sit by the Benson ILS Glideslope hut and listen to that wonderful vacuum cleaner

note when they taxied out to take off. 1960 :)

As an airman on 14 Sqn RNZAF [Canberra B12] at Tengah in 1966, I was aware that taking photographs was frowned upon by the RAF, [the one above was taken from a long way away from the aircraft,by a mate hence the poor definition], I didn't actually own a camera at the time!

Imagine my surprise one day when driving back from the airfield to see a RAF Police Landrover complete with flashing blue light behind me indicating me to pull over. You can't actually do that on Tengah roads, so I pulled in to the Guardroom and was escorted into an office whereupon sat an RAF Flt LT, who didn't say who he was but whom I presumed was a Provost.

Flanked on either side by the two Snowdrops from the Landrover, his opening comment was: "I want the camera, and I want it now". From the mystified look on my face he then asked: "You've been seen taking photo's of the Javelin flight line".

I realised that this guy hadn't the faintest idea of what he was talking about, and suggested he might be wrong because, A: I didn't own a camera and B:I hadn't been anywhere remotely close to the 64 Sqn Flight line.

IT slowly dawned on him that he might just have got it all wrong, and questioned the two rozzers on what they had seen, and it turned out they hadn't been anywhere near the airfield either.

Collapse of case and I did get an apology.

I watched two Javelins self destruct at Tengah, one T-Bird landed and had a brake failure and left the runway and tried to leap the large Mossie ditch which ran the full length of the runway, but ended up straddling it almost directly opposite the 64 flight line. Occupants vacated and casually strolled across to the Sqn Line office.

Another was turning onto final approach over the Officers' Mess when the throttle locks engaged [so we were told], and the aircraft developed a glide angle of a brick. When you watch a double ejection you don't believe it initially! That aircraft land in one piece in a paddy in Jurong.

I also believe a Javelin shot down an Indonesian Hercules.

In 1974, there were a number of QFIs from the RAF, RNZAF, RAAF, contracted to the fledging Singapore air force as instructors on the Maachi. They used to gather in the Mess at Changi, and I was told by one over a beer or three that he had been on the Javelin detachment to Lusaka Airport [?]at the time of the Rhodesian declaration of independence. The story was that most of them knew many of the Rhodesian pilots, many of whom were ex-RAF, and in fact they met occasionally over a beer. What a gentlemanly way to run a war!

Fitter 2,

XH877 had been on 64 before it went to 60 Sqn. It returned to 64 at some stage after the photo above was taken and was lost 20m NE of Tawau on 22 Jun 65.

Details of the loss here, scroll down the page to reach the date:

1965

Thanks, Laurie. My (hazy almost 50 year old) recollection was of the 60 Sqdn. Javelins having 4 missiles, and the 64 Sqdn. aircraft retaining the inner tanks for longer patrol durations.

There were persistent rumours, including Tengah groundcrew who swore that on the appropriate night a scrambled Javelin returned with shoes attached but missiles missing, and being sworn to secrecy as the ROEs prohibited such action without MOD approval. Equally, there are aircrew (who would have known) who are certain it never happened. I would have thought by now the facts would be known if it did happen.

from thunder and lightnings.co.uk http://www.*************************...in/history.php

Coincidentally both ejections were by the same crew, Pete Hart & Dinger Dell.

As has been said several times before, by some of us who were there,this never happened; for what it's worth as I remember the RoE during "Confrontation" we didn't need MoD approval to engage any Indonesian aircraft we might encounter within the Malaysian ADIZ, if it was "committing a hostile act" we had authorisation to shoot it down. Sadly, on the only occasion their C130s were known to have dropped paratroops (at Labis) our alert Javelins weren't scrambled.

I knew a 'stude' at Leeming in 1965 called Brendan Kaye (a Kiwi iirc) ... I heard that he met with an accident flying a Javelin in the Far East - does anyone have details of the circumstances?

Only one-eyed pilot I've ever come across was an ex Javelin chap on Argosies.

F Z,

Brendan Kay and his passenger, Cpl K Ashbee, died following a collision during a stream take off in pairs of 6 aircraft at Tengah on 30 May 67. He was serving on 64 Sqn at the time. Kay was flying the No. 4 position and came into contact with No. 3.

The occupants of the other aircraft were able to bang-out succesfully. Kay and Ashby, it seems, left their ejections too late.

The squadron was very close to disbanding and were giving their groundcrews flights in the back seats of their aircraft.

In which case I picked one of them up walking along the Jurong road! He said it was his second ejection!

lauriebe

Thank you very much for that info. That is very sad; as I type this I am looking at a photo Brendan took of my wife and me and gave to us - a thoroughly nice guy RIP.

John Lewer has been pointed in the direction of this thread.

If you're looking for a reunion venue, I'd be happy to host one at Gloucester.