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SRENNAPS 21st Oct 2012 08:08

Tristar Cabin Door - Escape
 
Not quite the plan - Riggers responsibility????


The comment from You Tube:

Unfortunately one of the cabin doors on this TriStar aircraft had been incorrectly operated on the ground. As the escape slide was partly set off, the only way to replace it safely was to open the door as if there was an emergency and let the slide deploy.....It didn't quite go as planned.

BEagle 21st Oct 2012 08:45

Presumably the TriStar fleet has now been grounded until all other doors/chutes have been fully checked....???

Wander00 21st Oct 2012 09:31

That's a cracker - but a good job not a "real" deployment.

Avionker 21st Oct 2012 10:21


Presumably the TriStar fleet has now been grounded until all other doors/chutes have been fully checked....???
Without knowing exactly what had been done to the door and slide prior to the attempted deploy that comment is perhaps a bit alarmist. Had there been attempts to remove the slide prior to deciding it was unsafe to do so? What, if anything, had been disconnected? It looks to me like the slide backboard was not connected to the floor, as if the girt bar was not engaged.

Also bear in mind that when evacuation tests are carried out prior to certification that the aircraft must be evacuated in 90 seconds with half the exits inoperative.

Slides do fail to deploy at times, but this one looks to me like it was not deployed correctly, as opposed to any particular failure in the mechanism.

NutLoose 21st Oct 2012 10:52

I remember them doing a VC10 deployment for the CAA, we all went to watch and one of the young WRAF girls was wearing nylon knickers that welded themselves to her butt... She was lying on the apron in agony with her skirt up as some medic tried to get them off... Needless to say, the growing circle of Gentlemen averted our erm eyes and never made any derogatory comments.. Her comments however have turned the air blue...


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airborne_artist 21st Oct 2012 10:57

Did she have her legs on the right way up? :=

NutLoose 21st Oct 2012 11:01

Indeed she did, she was a rare attractive version.

Wander00 21st Oct 2012 11:09

But with her knickers welded on..........

I'll get my coat

Moi/ 21st Oct 2012 14:16



Presumably the TriStar fleet has now been grounded until all other
doors/chutes have been fully checked....???
Tristar video is nearly 6 weeks old.

rolandpull 21st Oct 2012 17:57

Surely a Mover was involved somewhere?

NutLoose 21st Oct 2012 18:11

I'm Surprised nothing was said as that just makes the RAF look a bunch of amateur cnuts.

It reminds me of the terrible witch hunt carried out by members of the RAF against one of their colleagues online thru you tube. They should have been found and ejected.

SRENNAPS 21st Oct 2012 18:41


just makes the RAF look a bunch of amateur cnuts
Ah, Nutloose, I think that is a bit harsh. Cockups occur all over the place and You Tube has millions of them from all walks of life.

To be honest I think the hysterical laughter in the video shows the human side of the RAF and nobody would think any bad of it. Mistakes happen, even in the aviation world:ok::ok:

NutLoose 21st Oct 2012 19:09

True, but it doesn't exactly show the RAF as professionals does it.

Stuff 21st Oct 2012 19:21

I really don't see the issue.

This looks like it went EXACTLY to plan. Whatever the issue was it was deemed safer to let the pressure out of the bottle by discharging it. Why do it inside the aircraft? Just pull the bolts and throw the whole damn thing out and be done with it then refit in slow time.

I can't imagine how many safety-critical systems must have failed for that to be unintentional. For a start the slide leaves the aircraft symmetrically, are you really telling me that all the fixing points failed at exactly the same time?

Inflammatory posting and representing this to be something that it's not is a bit beneath you isn't it SRENNAPS?

SRENNAPS 21st Oct 2012 19:34

Sorry, have I just read this correctly,


Inflammatory posting and representing this to be something that it's not is a bit beneath you isn't it SRENNAPS?
WTF, I just posted a link mate, It was sent to me from somebody in the middle east who worked on Tristars. He worked with me on Tonkas many years ago!

I thought it would be of interest (and a bit of a laugh) here.


PS.....and I suppose the laughter was all part of the plan!!

Dengue_Dude 21st Oct 2012 20:09

Err . . . Girt Bar?

Krystal n chips 21st Oct 2012 20:10

"Presumably the TriStar fleet has now been grounded until all other doors/chutes have been fully checked"

I hate to say this BEagle, but in the real world ( the one without the RAF chain of command and, at times, self justification structure ) I have deployed several life ex.slides that duly dangled in the metaphorical breeze...never grounded a fleet however. No need.

Good video though....liked the engineers reactions ! :ok:

Dengue..girt bar...it's a bar that is attached to the slide by a steel cable. The bar is then attached to the cabin floor by the CC prior to push back ( the RAF will probably have totally different procedure of course ) hence the term "Doors Armed" or "Doors to Automatic" and, in theory, when the door is opened" in the unlikely event" etc, the tension on the cable, will result in the N2 bottle inside the slide being activated and the chute duly deploys.

This can be "rather interesting" when Ms Vapid forgets to disarm the door on arrival at an airbridge and the slide deploys as intended...she found it sooo funny....then she had an "educational" meeting with the engineers.

BEagle 21st Oct 2012 20:26


....in the real world ( the one without the RAF chain of command and, at times, self justification structure ) I have deployed several life ex.slides that duly dangled in the metaphorical breeze...never grounded a fleet however. No need.
Leaving your stupid anti-RAF sniping aside, this wasn't an inflation failure, the whole escape slide fell off.

How many others were similarly affected? It wouldn't have taken long to have conducted a quick physical check of the fleet.

Years and years ago, the static line between the seat and the parachute of a Gnat was found to be disconnected. A fleet check revealed several others and it was soon established that this was due to sabotage by a disaffected airman who didn't like being in Anglesey. I hope he enjoyed Colchester rather less...:mad:

Safety equipment does matter; I don't know of any operator who would think otherwise, nor would I wish to fly with them.

Al Murdoch 21st Oct 2012 20:35


This can be "rather interesting" when Ms Vapid forgets to disarm the door on arrival at an airbridge and the slide deploys as intended...she found it sooo funny....then she had an "educational" meeting with the engineers.
This also happens in the "real world" now and again. It occasionally results in very nasty accidents for the people standing the other side of the door.

NutLoose 21st Oct 2012 21:07

Thing is although it dropped out of the aircraft as it had partially deployed, you do not know what was disconnected prior to the incident in an attempt to fix or remove it...


Thought the pop at srennaps was a bit uncalled for, I thought they had mixed up my post with his.


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