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mlc 2nd Oct 2012 15:49

Martin Baker MB5.

NutLoose 2nd Oct 2012 16:39

Ditto... Was just going to add that.

soddim 2nd Oct 2012 16:55

Both the Lightning and the Tornado F3 went to war. The Lightning in Yemen with the Saudis and the Tornado F3 in the Gulf War.

TorqueOfTheDevil 2nd Oct 2012 17:09


B-32 Dominator was in a get-well phase
...but did manage to fly several combat missions prior to VJ-Day. One B-32 also managed to be shot at (but not shot down) by some diehard Japs tooling around in some 'Georges' after VJ-Day!


advanced late Second World War German aircraft that...were way ahead of allied designs, I don't believe this myself
Just out of interest, which Allied aircraft were comparable to the Me 262, Ar 234C, Me 263, Go 229, Bv 238, Ta 152C/H etc? All these aircraft flew (Me 263 as an unpowered prototype only), and some flew combat sorties.

rats404 2nd Oct 2012 17:21


I think you'll find that the Wiggins Aerodyne has been used extensively in support of 24SAS and 49Para operations.
OPSEC, AA, OPSEC... ;)

Rosevidney1 2nd Oct 2012 17:54

The Martin Baker MB5 in my not so humble opinion. ;)

con-pilot 2nd Oct 2012 18:05

Another one was the Grumman F-7F Tigercat.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...P_Tigercat.jpg

SASless 2nd Oct 2012 18:31

I would vote for the Republic Super Thunderbolt.....amongst a few others.


Courtney Mil 2nd Oct 2012 18:41

Good one, SASless.

I have to feel sorry for Curtiss. So many attempts that never made it in that video.

Brewster Buffalo 2nd Oct 2012 18:50


Just out of interest, which Allied aircraft were comparable to the Me 262..
In post war tests the Me262 was considered superior to the Allied jet types. But against that the allied pilots were better trained and their jets more reliable and better built.

Its a tribute to the British Aircraft industry that it was never outclassed by the potentially larger German Aircraft Industry.

brokenlink 2nd Oct 2012 19:26

Alongside the MB5 what about the Supermarine Spiteful?

Pontius Navigator 2nd Oct 2012 19:45

Not aircraft but submarines but indicative to the problems Germany had.

A friend was passage crew on some Germany submarines being ferried to Russia as part of the spoilts of war. The valves had to manipulated everyday to stop them seizing up for they were not made of brass as allied submarines were.

Shortage of rare metals probably did for much German production.

TorqueOfTheDevil 2nd Oct 2012 21:28


Its a tribute to the British Aircraft industry that it was never outclassed by the potentially larger German Aircraft Industry.
Considering that the British aircraft industry didn't have the significant disadvantage of bombs raining down upon it for the last four years of the war, one might say that the British aircraft industry should have been streets ahead of the German, rather than just 'never outclassed by'...

500N 2nd Oct 2012 21:36

Torque

That is an interesting point !

And could also be said about the US industry although
they seemed to be into pumping out the planes as fast as
they could once they found something that worked.

ORAC 2nd Oct 2012 21:43


they seemed to be into pumping out the planes as fast as
they could once they found something that worked
Quantity has a quality all of it's own.

500N 2nd Oct 2012 21:55

Agree, when it came to dropping thousands of dumb bombs from 1000 planes at once, you don't need the top of the range to do it.

Squirrel 41 2nd Oct 2012 22:23

I would've plumped for MB5, dH Hornet, XF-12 Rainbow (surely one of the most beautiful designs), HK-1 Spruce Goose, but one not mentioned so far is Hughes XF-11, which I always thought could have been if it had been fully developed.

S41

AGS Man 3rd Oct 2012 05:27

I'm gonna jump back to between the wars and suggest the Hawker Fury or Bristol Bulldog

vascodegama 3rd Oct 2012 06:14

Didn't the Vampire see action in the Rhodesian civil war?

AngloPepper 3rd Oct 2012 07:13

Hornet, MB5, Rainbow all too easy.....
 
....more prosaic but very practical. I give you the Bristol Brigand.


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