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hval 29th Sep 2012 16:52

What Does Casual Mean
 
Apologies for my odd question.

Have been invited to a civvy charity dinner tonight comprising Champagne reception, three course dinner and then a concert.

Dress is "casual".

What the heck does that mean? Have been trying to interpret this for days.

I presume that a jacket should be worn. What about a tie?

airborne_artist 29th Sep 2012 16:59

Arrive in jacket and tie. Recce, and if the majority are sans tie, repair to the gents to remove it.

pr00ne 29th Sep 2012 17:00

Casual means just that, casual. No jacket, no tie, no suit, no black tie, no lounge suit, just casual.

hval 29th Sep 2012 17:01

Airborne_Artist,

Good suggestion. Thanks for that.

hval 29th Sep 2012 17:02

Damian,

I suspect that Mrs Bloggs shall not be attending; more is the pity.

hval 29th Sep 2012 17:06

pr00ne,


Casual means just that, casual. No jacket, no tie, no suit, no black tie, no lounge suit, just casual.
Eek! I would feel somewhat naked without a jacket. No tie I can do - just.

Is rather a "posh do". Do your recommendations still apply?

Pilot.Lyons 29th Sep 2012 17:11

What Does Casual Mean
 
Shirt, jeans and shoes typical weatherspoons atire ol chap!

Courtney Mil 29th Sep 2012 17:11

Depends where it is.

Austrailia, clean beach shorts and T-shirt. No budgies.

USA, baggy basketball shorts, sleeveless vest and cap on backwards.

France, stipped rugby shirt, beret, sting of onoins and tight shorts.

Germany, leather gear from your secret wardrobe.

Scotland, your second best kilt with a dead badger tied around your waist.

Wales, anything as long as you have a leek in your pocket.

Ireland, your little people outfit.

England (south), Chinos and a shirt.

England (north), cloggs, smelly tweed and a flat cap.


Hope this helps,

Courtney

hval 29th Sep 2012 17:16

Anyone with a spare whippet?

Courtney, you mean you keep your special leather gear hidden? I presume I shouldn't wear my gimp mask in public?

Courtney Mil 29th Sep 2012 17:17

Whipets, apparently, are specific to South Yorkshire, not North Yorkshire. Mrs Courtney is very adamant about that.

The leather gear doesn't have to include the gimp mask, but I understand it's now completely acceptable at any occasion in the UK. I've seen your pics on the internet and it rather suits you, in fact. Who was that with you in the photographs? I thought I recognised her.

Courtney Mil 29th Sep 2012 17:21

Sorry, Damian, was addressing your point in previous post when you posted. Point well made, though. :ok:

500N 29th Sep 2012 17:22

Courtney

A slight modification if I may !

from
"Austrailia, clean beach shorts and T-shirt. No budgies."
to
Austrailia, clean beach shorts and Singlet, thongs (flip flops !). No budgies.


T shirts are more formal wear !!!:O

BATCO 29th Sep 2012 17:23

The dress code seems largely to have been replaced by specifying dress. So, 'formal' after 7pm has been replaced by 'white tie', and 'semi-formal' by 'black tie' and so on.

Your hosts have stuck wit the code, so go with it: casual = jacket and tie (so you have great freedom on shirt colour, tie design and trousers). As Airborne Artist said, do this, do a recce, and then adjust.

Batco

PS. The drawback of ditching the code for specifying the dress is that it usually only specifies what gentlemen should wear and the ladies then get away with virtually anything again.

Courtney Mil 29th Sep 2012 17:23

Amendment fully accepted.

Pontius Navigator 29th Sep 2012 17:27

Dowton Abbey the other night, formal shirts hidden, evening wear spoilt, so both leading males appear for dinner in 'informal' dress - soft white shirt, black bow tie, and a DJ. Just like we were taught back at ITS.

airborne_artist 29th Sep 2012 17:30

I feel I must remind Hval that the tie if worn must be darker than the shirt, unless the wearer is a media luvvie.

BATCO 29th Sep 2012 17:36

7pm
 
Not sure where or even whether written, so maybe there is some latitude. But, surely one does not attend a ball or dinner earlier than 7pm?

Batco

Lordflasheart 29th Sep 2012 17:56

Quote - "7 pm ? Where did that come from ?"

A. ... Cut-off time for Brahn Boots.

flynavysomerset 29th Sep 2012 18:14

From Debrett's
 
A dress code of smart casual requires that you look smart but not overly formal.

Men should wear a jacket or blazer and flannels or chinos, not jeans.

A shirt and tie can be worn but an open collar is also acceptable.

Women should aim to be smart in a dress or skirt and top with a jacket or smart cover-up.

Avoid sportswear and wear smart shoes, never trainers. Equally don't be too formal; hats and evening gowns will look out of place.

Looks like airborne_artist is spot on.

Special Occasions - dress codes - smart casual

Regards

FNS

Brian 48nav 29th Sep 2012 20:00

Gosh PN! What a memory! All I can remember about ITS is that us grammar school oiks were taught not lick the gravy off our plates at a formal function.;);)


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