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BroomstickPilot 20th Sep 2012 13:13

Gliding - a question to the military guys
 
Hi Guys,

Many of you, before joining the Service, will perhaps have been ATC/CCF cadets and will have done some gliding with them.

Alternatively, perhaps you were a member of a gliding club before you enlisted, or perhaps you glide now while in the UK and during your off-duty hours.

I should like to ask whether your gliding experience has contributed in any way to your subsequent professional flying skills? If so, what contribution has it made?

Regards,

BP.

jayteeto 20th Sep 2012 13:41

I had no powered flying experience before flying training, I had solo experience on gliders. It helped a little bit, but not that much......

Tiger_mate 20th Sep 2012 14:29


It helped a little bit, but not that much......
Your not kidding :E
:ok:

diginagain 20th Sep 2012 15:24

Having completed a gliding scholarship many years before going solo in an Army Chipmunk, I was prepared for the opportunity to sing loudly and tunelessly without being berated.

Two's in 20th Sep 2012 16:10

Having soloed on Gliders, it certainly helped in the respect of not being too overawed at finding myself alone in the cockpit later on, and it all contributes towards developing a good sense of 'Airmanship'.

SASless 20th Sep 2012 16:18

It certainly cannot hurt....and it is great fun to boot! Loved my time at the London Gliding Club at Dunstable.

Lovely people....nice site....very interesting place to fly from.

Do avoid the Cricket Pitch not too far away from the place....they don't like gliders there.

Bob Viking 20th Sep 2012 18:12

SASless
 
With regards to the Cricket pitch, was it the noise they objected to?
BV;)

MightyGem 20th Sep 2012 22:09

I had about 100hrs on gliders when I started my Army Pilots Course. The first sixty hours on Chippys were a doddle. :cool: The next 60 hours on Gazelles weren't. :eek:

Dan Winterland 21st Sep 2012 05:16

About 300 hours on gliders - and an instructor rating. It helped for the first 60 hours (solo in about 6) but not much after that. But my PFLs were always good!

Later as an instructor at the elementary stage, I enjoyed teaching glider pilots more than PPL holders. Their airmanship (particulary lookout) was superior and they were better attitude flyers. And they learned PFLs quickly!

India Four Two 21st Sep 2012 05:40

Dan,

On the other hand, I always enjoyed demonstrating rolling into a turn with no rudder to PPLs and watching them realize what adverse yaw really was!

jayteeto 21st Sep 2012 08:36

Tiger Mate, I may have struggled a little.............. As I get older and memories fade, I like to think that my total lack of skill was actually caused by the RAF asking me to fly with deficient equipment and bad instructors. I was actually a God, it just wasn't my fault....... :ok:

althenick 21st Sep 2012 08:57

Good thread and a good place to ask a question of my own. Not a flyer but curious - can you fly a power assisted glider on a BGA Licence?

obnoxio f*ckwit 21st Sep 2012 09:09

As opposed to bad equipment and deficient instructors?....;)

Dg800 21st Sep 2012 09:29


Good thread and a good place to ask a question of my own. Not a flyer but curious - can you fly a power assisted glider on a BGA Licence?
The short answer is:

Self sustaining: YES
Self launching: NO

Ciao,

Dg800

EDIT - Straight from the horse's mouth: Welcome to the British Gliding Association

Yellow Sun 21st Sep 2012 09:42


I should like to ask whether your gliding experience has contributed in any way to your subsequent professional flying skills? If so, what contribution has it made?
I know that the gliding fraternity is always anxious to promote the positive contribution of their activity towards other aspects of flying and I am sure that they are sincere in their beliefs. However I feel that gliding has about the same relevance to professional military flying as archery has to weapons skills.

YS

jayteeto 21st Sep 2012 09:50

Stick back/houses smaller
Stick forward/houses bigger
Hold stick back/houses circle around windscreen
Sort of works like military training??

1.3VStall 21st Sep 2012 09:53

Yellow Sun,

Then you clearly have no experience of gliding in the mountains!

SOSL 21st Sep 2012 10:25

August bank holiday weekend, towards the middle of the last century. I was solo in a Sedbergh, at age of 16 (me not the glider - the glider was much older) approaching Catterick. Due to a sudden attack of incompetence landed short on the other side of the A1 - rescue party soon arrived and "helped me" to de-rig.

Unfortunately the wind was blowing across the A1 at the time; had to carry the wing into wind. We waited for 45 minutes for a gap in the traffic big enough to get a Sedbergh wing across both carriageways.

Then I decided to amend my RAF application form to read "Engineer".

Rgds SOS

Yellow Sun 21st Sep 2012 10:28


Then you clearly have no experience of gliding in the mountains!
Then please explain its relevance? I would suggest that those who have undergone primary gliding instruction prior to military flying training have no experience of gliding in mountains either. In fact a very small minority of glider pilots will have any experience of flying in mountains so its not really relevant.

YS

Wander00 21st Sep 2012 14:31

All "stick" time is beneficial


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