What he said ^^^^

The T67a originally had an O-235 (115hp) engine that was upgraded to an O-320 (160hp) in the T67b. The T-3a and the T67M260 had an IO-540 (260hp) engine. Why the T-3a had the same smaller rudder fitted to it that the earlier smaller-engine birds had, I have no idea - but I do know that if I was spinning and aerobating in the US where it is often 'hot and high' I would want all the rudder I could get in the breeze!!! :ok:

LJ

Fair point, however I understand the losses were as a result of handling rather than airframe issues.

I am out in the sticks and out of touch - are the Tutors still grounded?

HF

HF,

There has been a temporary pause in Tutor flying until AAIB, Babcock and Hoffman can determine the cause of the prop failure - and, of course, any remedial action required.

Duncs:ok:

Congrats on your 600th post...!

Thanks Duncan - hope it is resolved soon.

HF

Any news on the grounding? We're supposed to be taking some cadets to AEF on Saturday but we have yet to hear anything through the Chain of Command.

...and you really think you're going to find the truth here? I hope you'll be telling us the good news when it comes.

Tutor Grounding
 

Sook

What Wing are you and which AEF? No 5 AEF has passed information to all its wings by phone.

Bear in mind that most Wings are having to operate with reduced staff and are struggling to cope (and they only had 2 &1/2 in the first place) because of the Government enforced reduction in Civil Servants.

45-25-25

We are with 5 AEF, so I guess the email has got lost in the ether! I will enquire with the appropriate people.

Message on Bader says no resumption likely until 10 Sept. If you can log in to Bader, see link for a little more info.

Grounded until at least next week. Don't use that as a timescale though, it's just they can't say exactly how long.

Any news yet? Have they found the bits so a cause can be established?

HF

From the ATC internal SharePoint site "Bader":

So they didn't find the bits that fell off................?

Could be the last

Apparently not, cause not definitely known. Some possible clutching at straws going on?

I believe that some company pilots are flying, but the time frame mentioned a few posts ago sounds about right.

Regards
Gene

Has the "little white Grub" fleet got going again yet?

I read elsewhere that the Vigilant fleet (Grob 109) is also now grounded due to an AD on an elevator control rod, issued by EASA.

Been flying a few weeks now. :ok:

The aircraft captain has been awarded a well-deserved Green Endorsement to his log book for his handling of the incident. :ok: