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NutLoose 1st Aug 2012 20:38

Argentinian Falklands war graves vandalised
 
Argentine war cemetery in Falkland Islands vandalised - Telegraph


One hopes that everyone on here feels the same sickened abhorrence for what has happened, regardless of what side anyone fought on during the war, these guys deserve to Rest In Peace regardless of Nation or side and at a place their families can visit to grieve free from the worry that people can do such a despicable act to their graves.... It is beneath me the contempt and loathing I feel for these individuals that have besmirched both the reputation of the islanders and service personnel on the Isles by this cowardly act.

JFZ90 1st Aug 2012 20:44

Not cricket.

Seems odd that the islanders would bother stooping.

May actually have been an Argie op to stir up trouble?

Was this before/after the hockey?

ShyTorque 1st Aug 2012 20:50

Speaking as an ex-military Brit, this is outrageous and very, very sad.

Duncan D'Sorderlee 1st Aug 2012 21:18

Outrageous!

Hopefully, this will be properly resolved PDQ.

RIP

Duncs:ok:

Hubstrasse 1st Aug 2012 21:35

All is not fair in love and war
 
one may not agree with one's opponent's political views but to treat his dead with respect costs noting but demonstrates your own humanity and decency. In a small rural cemetery with a few Allied WW2 war graves, the local ladies of the time turned out to pay their respects at the burial of German aircrew KIA on raids to Liverpool. Perhaps not following popular sentiment at the time but the highest standard of humanity, reasoning they would wish the same decency for their menfolk far away. Do unto others as you would unto...

Lima Juliet 1st Aug 2012 21:37

I have to admit, seeing as the Argies have a history of the "school of dirty tricks" (BBC News - UK criticises 'tasteless' Falklands Olympic ad), I wouldn't be surprised if the Buzos Tácticos (Argie SBS) weren't tasked by the whack-job Cristina Fernandez de Kercher.

I just can't imagine our sailors, soldiers or airmen or the Falkland Islanders doing this :confused:.

LJ

Navaleye 1st Aug 2012 22:08

Neither can I. Its completely wrong. I hope the culprits are caught and punished asap.

ericferret 1st Aug 2012 22:57

After the war the german war graves in the UK were grouped together at Cannock.
There were exceptions when local people preferred that they remained in situe.

A good example being North Coates in Lincolnshire where the German war dead rest alongside casualties from the Strike Wing.

War graves are an emotive subject and I also hope the culprits are caught, they shame us all.

November4 1st Aug 2012 23:24


A good example being North Coates in Lincolnshire where the German war dead rest alongside casualties from the Strike Wing.
And in Brookwood Military Cemetery.

In Haycombe Cemetery, Bath are the graves of a number German airmen next to the Military plot and not too far from the mass grave of civilians killed in the Baedeker Raids.

Navaleye 1st Aug 2012 23:30

I suspect the Falklands Police Force, RMP and RAFP will be checking on everyone's movements that night, its all small place and I suspect they will be found quite quickly and made an example of. Lets hope so.

Squirrel 41 1st Aug 2012 23:43

Hear hear - all be said better by others already.

S41

Milo Minderbinder 2nd Aug 2012 00:43

Any cruise ships in at the time?

Airborne Aircrew 2nd Aug 2012 02:01


but to treat his dead with respect costs noting but demonstrates your own humanity and decency
Humanity and decency aside, (that's all a bit too PC and touchy bloody feely - they were the enemy after all), one respects the warriors of both sides. They stepped forward and gave their lives in combat. Each and every man or woman who does so for their country, whether the cause be right or not, deserves the eternal respect of all.

Those who would desecrate a grave of a fallen soldier should be buried face down just over the nearest ridge and their arsehole used as the resting place for a flagpole.

Abbey Road 2nd Aug 2012 08:07

It does leave one wondering, whoever the actual miscreant was, that the idea behind it was to stir up anti-Brit feeling back in Argentina. :hmm:

OldnDaft 2nd Aug 2012 08:17

Having visited this site in 07, it is desperately sad to think someone has damaged it in any way. It was in pristine condition (Maintenance was overseen by the Command WO at MPC) and was visited by many members of the SAMA82 veterans who attended the 25th anniversary remembrance activities. I simply can't believe that a local or a member of the British Forces would have acted in this way - it does leave me wondering about who may have done it.

mad_jock 2nd Aug 2012 09:51

It will be some wee ****es that are pissed off having to come home from boarding school or civi family has just been posted in.

I suspect they will be under 14 and wern't strong enough to toppel the grave stones.

A group of us divers caught similar up in the Scapa Flow services grave yard and got a mouthfull off them when they were told to bugger off.

The old boy that keeps it pristine says its quite a common problem, under 14 there is nothing that can be done apart from take them home by the police. And then he has to tidy up the mess.

The kids had been doing slides on the grass with mountain bikes on the slope down to the german sailors graves. The rememberance book had been damaged the previous month.

The auld boy said they wanted to keep it open all the time and had left a pen so people could write in the book and also read what others had written but he was getting tired of having to fix things constantly during the summer.

Laarbruch72 2nd Aug 2012 10:24


Any cruise ships in at the time?
Not really relevant, the cruise ship passengers are offloaded in Stanley harbour on their own small boats, Customs perform passport checks on the cruise liner, and the crew do head counts. The passengers wander around Stanley for a couple of hours, visit the shops, then get back on the boats, all counted back in.

There's not really scope for passengers to get to Darwin as it's a 4 hour round trip if you have transport, and Falkland Islands Travel doesn't arrange transport there. Most passengers are ashore about 5-6 hours and take in a chaperoned trip to Gypsy Cove if anywhere.

In any case it's not cruise ship season anyway.



“The impacts on the glass appear to be caused by bullets,” Cesar Trejo, who heads the commission of families of combatants who died during the conflict, said.
Interesting, if true.

mad_jock 2nd Aug 2012 10:34

Pointey rock on laminated glass has the same effect.

As a student I helped install in a school toughend glass windows to stop said effect, these things could take a bowling ball battered off them by a 20 stone labourer chucking it from height off the back of an artic and the window being at the bottom of a skip.

Had to change them all back a month later because health and safety decided there was a chance the little darlings might get hurt because the stones had a tendency to bounce straight back from where they were thrown.

Wensleydale 2nd Aug 2012 13:30



“The impacts on the glass appear to be caused by bullets,” Cesar Trejo, who
heads the commission of families of combatants who died during the conflict,
said.
So lets excavate the bullets and look at the calibre. I am sure that the gun can be traced if it came from a Brit Mil weapon. The truth is out there.

Shack37 2nd Aug 2012 14:25


So lets excavate the bullets and look at the calibre. I am sure that the gun can be traced if it came from a Brit Mil weapon. The truth is out there. 2nd Aug 2012 10:34
I think the bullet theory has since been discarded to be replaced by an axe attack. Whatever it was, I hope the culprits are identified quickly, named and shamed.


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