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Churchills Ghost 18th Jul 2012 21:05

Operation Mincemeat
 
BBC2's evening scheduling inserted a programme about Operation Mincemeat tonight instead of the advertised event. Did anyone see it?

Great stuff!

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Lima Juliet 18th Jul 2012 21:33

Yes, I did. :ok:

It is also the subject of a cracking 1956 movie The Man Who Never Was (1956) - IMDb

LJ

PS. It's Operation MINCEMEAT - the codeword is in capitals :ok:

chiglet 18th Jul 2012 21:39

Had "Operation Crossbow" on last night. about the Photo Interpeters at Medmedham. Cracking prog. [If missed, "may" be avbl on Iplayer]

Lima Juliet 18th Jul 2012 21:46

That'll be Operation CROSSBOW, then? :ugh:

500N 18th Jul 2012 21:51

I enjoyed the film, wish we had the other programs out here.
Will have to find them on line somewhere and watch them.


Re Operation MINCEMEAT in Wiki (Yes, I know), interesting to see that the
security services had to release the whole story in the 1950's because
of an amateur who wrote a fictional book so close to the truth.
("At this point the British security services decided that the best response was to publish the story.)

Not often you see that but you have to wonder if the author with the posts he held during the war didn't have inside knowledge.

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Wingedplumber 18th Jul 2012 21:59

Leon,

Who are you?.....The thread police?

Come on mate chill.....:ok:

BEagle 18th Jul 2012 22:58

I bought Ben Macintyre's book 'Operation Mincemeat' to read on a flight a couple of years ago and it was unputdownable!

ISBN 978 1 4088 0600 5 - available from all the usual retailers.

I recall my father saying how good the film was when he went to see it with some friends at the local fleapit - and that it was very close to the true story!

GOLF_BRAVO_ZULU 19th Jul 2012 06:08

Leon Jabachjabicz. I know what you mean but remember that JSP101 has now been reduced to the status of "guide". Comms anarchy isn't, apparently, considerd undesirable. :sad:

green granite 19th Jul 2012 07:38

The Operation Crossbow programme was a rewrite of history, It for example mentioned Cherwell who totally opposed the idea that Germany had rockets yet makes no mention of professor RV Jones who proved their existence or Constance Babbington-Smith the lead Photo Interpreter. It also said that Medmedham instigated the raids on Peenemünde and the Ski sites, which is rather beyond their authority, and why was the programme full of Yanks who played no part in Peenemünde?

Tankertrashnav 19th Jul 2012 08:23


Leon,

Who are you?.....The thread police?

Come on mate chill.....http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...ies/thumbs.gif
Leon Jabachjabicz - 1,277 posts

Winged Plumber - 7 posts

More to the point - who are you, Winged Plumber? ;)

Thread policing is an integral part of PPruNe!

Basil 19th Jul 2012 10:38

[pedant]
The TV prog referred to a picture of Cholmondeley and Montagu posing with the van shortly after crossing the Scottish border. In the book the same (I think) pic is annotated "at Langbank on the River Clyde". Langbank ain't close to the border.
[/pedant]

'Just pretend to be lovers to give a ring of truth to our letters.' Yeah, right, Monty! :}

Trackmaster 19th Jul 2012 10:52

One thing that always amuses me about this site is how quickly the pedantic tribe swing into action. It must be hell, hovering, waiting for a typo. (Sorry, I meant typographical error)

And I haven't had too many posts either. So I suppose that means I should also keep my thoughts to myself. :confused:

TEEEJ 19th Jul 2012 11:09

BBC iPlayer - Operation Mincemeat

BBC iPlayer - Operation Crossbow

NutLoose 26th Jun 2019 20:10

BBC 4 operation mincemeat is on now
 
Documentary about the operation interviewing those involved, if you do not remember it's the dropping off of a corpse off Spain to fool the Germans

SATCOS WHIPPING BOY 26th Jun 2019 20:28

Watching with interest. Talk about planting Fake News.

BEagle 27th Jun 2019 06:59

'The Man Who Never Was' is a pretty accurate 1956 movie about Op. MINCEMEAT.

Available on DVD from the usual places.

Pontius Navigator 27th Jun 2019 07:49


Originally Posted by BEagle (Post 10503822)
'The Man Who Never Was' is a pretty accurate 1956 movie about OPERATION MINCEMEAT.

Available on DVD from the usual places.

I can't remember if the film covered the German side as well. I know a more recent documentary did, but the latest offering included interviews with Major Martin's girl friend.

One thing it didn't cover was whether the briefcase was returned (or did I miss that with MiL shouting through it). It was 'essential' that it was returned so that we would not know that the Germans knew our plans.

Pontius Navigator 27th Jun 2019 17:53

Yesterday was indeed a repeat from 2010/2012.

ExGrunt 27th Jun 2019 18:08


One thing it didn't cover was whether the briefcase was returned
The briefcase was returned. I read a book about the operation years ago which included details of the testing done on the briefcase and contents after it was returned. IIRC one of the sealed letters, which had very carefully been folded only once, had two fold creases on the paper, so they knew it had been opened, read, refolded and resealed to make it look unopened.

HTH

EG

tubby linton 27th Jun 2019 21:29

Copies of the letters were found in Abwehr records in Berlin after the end of the war .The major’s identity has never been proved with a recent thought being that he was one of the dead from the loss of the converted carrier HMS Dasher.


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