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Turkeyslapper 10th Jul 2012 12:38

Sorry if this has been done earlier however....if you are talking about placing all of the assets under one banner, why not give it all to the AAC.

AAAVN has been operating all battlefied RW assets (ARH, Black hawk, CH47 et al) for quite a while now and despite some teething problems they are making a good fist of it. Hell, they even operate off decks!

Just a question from down below.

Cheers

Like This - Do That 10th Jul 2012 14:17

Just when you thought it was safe to back in the forum .....

Turkeyslapper, I can't help feeling that you've knocked over an ants' nest :uhoh:

The Nip 10th Jul 2012 17:44

Air Cavalry Brigade
 
I am sure in the early 90’s, one of the serious papers had an article about the future use of military helicopters. It proposed an Air Cavalry Brigade. I presume this idea was not popular.

ramp_up 10th Jul 2012 21:09

Surely one would have thought that as the AAC shrinks down to just the AH and 40 Wild Cats, the percentage of Green versus Blue of both shades in the HQ will also change proportionally, hopefully mirroring that of the overall stake holding of the JHC.

Bet it doesn’t though, mainly because there a number of SOs in the Centre with hidden agendas.

This is not meant as a dig at the guys and girls that have saved my ass in the sandpit, for I have the upmost admiration for them.

WG13, I wouldn’t slag crabs off to much. Remember who services your AEA. It’s amazing where your microphone could end up during the night shift.

wg13_dummy 10th Jul 2012 22:52


Surely one would have thought that as the AAC shrinks down to just the AH and 40 Wild Cats, the percentage of Green versus Blue of both shades in the HQ will also change proportionally, hopefully mirroring that of the overall stake holding of the JHC.
The same could be levelled the other way. As the SH force shrinks (running only CH47 and Puma 2...but reducing to one type once Puma 2 runs its short course), totalling somewhere in the region of 70 aircraft. Compare that to around 100 aircraft (WAH64 and Wildcat...and Gazelle that will no doubt be marching on way past 2020). Dont forget the CHF element. I guess most importantly, you've probably forgotten who JHC actually work for - HQ Land.

I do fully endorse shooting every fifth SO though. The JHC would quite happily function without quite a proportion of its staff....on all three sides of the pissing contest.



It proposed an Air Cavalry Brigade. I presume this idea was not popular.
That is the problem throughout Defence. 'Popularity' vastly outweighs 'practicality' or common sense. I really cannot see why taking that last step to fully combine our heli assets in to one organic force isn't the way forward. One big issue at present is the inter-service pissing contest. Remove that and it really could be a combined force. Trouble is, non of the services want to give any ground whatsoever.


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