Return of Service...is it possible to escape?
 

I was just wondering if anyone has managed to leave the RAF before their Return of Service date. If so, how did you do it?

Thank you

Very possible, it just depends how brave you are, and whether you want to be employable when you go.

Conscienstious Objection/give a months notice and walk and see what the EU courts say/drug deal?

I was hoping to be employable afterward and I'm trying to avoid getting a shocking report before departing, if at all possible!

Err drugs would follow you around for the rest of your life... Not a good suggestion

No, really?

Fail your fitness test...?

I appreciate not meant to be taken seriously but as this kind of "advice" could be misconstrued, applying to be treated as a conscientious objector does not involve giving a month's notice, and has nothing to do with "the EU courts", whatever they might be.

Back on thread...

Biggus, if total desperation sets in I'll keep that in mind!

Are there any employment law loop holes that anyone knows of?

Minstral

The change to our military pensions which are being enforced in 2015 may give you an escape loop.

Do get a BA start course date first though.

How many years short are you, and what do you fly?
I ask, because if it is an aircraft which is overborne, then you might have a better chance.

Do you have a good reason?

A contract is a contract, though I must admit that the latest pension news seems to suggest that the MOD doesn't believe that to be the case.:hmm:

Nope, there is no way. Anyone that suggests otherwise is stating so from a position of conjecture, not having done so themselves.

Soz.

Not true.

If you become member of parliament you can get out. In fact I believe you just have to stand, but don't quote me on that.
A friend of mine did it.


So it is difficult but not impossible.

The CO route will also work.

If you started IOT in Oct 2004, you probably wouldn't have finished flying training / OCU much before mid-2006?

Which means you've given what, about 6 years of productive service?

Options would seem somewhat slim. However, 6 years of Groundhog Days in the Great Sandpit would surely stretch anyone's motivation towards the Service...:uhoh:

IIRC, and you are an officer and LCR; if you get chopped, you will revert to a ground branch RToS ie 3 years vice 6 years. If not, speak to your Deskie and ask - you never know, he/she might cut you a deal.

Duncs:ok:

Or you could speak to your Desk Officer - it is what they're there for!

A Novel Approach
 

Minstral,

The 'contact your Desk officer' is probably good advice. There is a novel way to go the Conchie route, which has nothing to do with killing people and/or breaking their stuff.

The 2008 Climate Change Act imposes legally binding reductions in the UK's greenhouse gas emissions. This is reinforced by the current government's Carbon Floor Pricing scheme, which declares CO2 a pollutant.

http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/d/carb...t_response.pdf

A rational case could be made that you have a conscientious objection to your employer polluting the atmosphere with killer plant food. You could also cite that your employer has no means of avoiding this pollution, as its capability depends on burning fossil fuels, leaving you in an impossible moral dilemma.

After you've won, and left, you could have a Damascene conversion in which it was revealed to you that your conscientious objection was based on complete Eco-Taliban bollocks which our muppet politicians have fallen for hook, line and sinker. You could then get a job in an airline.

Well, they 'kin started it.

Why on earth would anyone wish to leave early.......?

Lots of talk of return of service contract, have you seen it, did you sign such a thing?
Mythical beasts some of these "contracts"

.. used to be (until late 70s??) that just standing worked.

Then many realised a deposit was cheaper than "buying yourself out". So rules changed, and you have to be elected. Mind you, have you SEEN an MP's Pension Plan??

I knew of one who did 12-15 years or thereabouts, and gets £40k pension for life :eek:

Doesn't help the OP, but I don't think that's quite right. Before becoming a parliamentary candidate you have to apply to retire or resign or be granted a free discharge.

Whether your application is granted or not will depend on the exigencies of the service.

Having been allowed to retire etc, an unsuccessful parliamentary candidate has no right of reinstatement - or duty to return, for that matter. See QRs.