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graf 2nd May 2012 11:40

RAF Merlin Crews Screwed
 
With the impending doom upon the Merlin force does anyone know of any slots for pilots or crewmen, flying or ground tours, coming available in the next 12 - 18 months? Escape tunnel digging must commence....

:mad:

LateArmLive 2nd May 2012 14:06

Try asking PMA?

althenick 2nd May 2012 14:23

Serious question - could you not transfer into the RN?

Pheasant 2nd May 2012 14:30

Probably a silly question but does this mean the transfer to the RN is actually occurring? What about marinisation of the airframe, folding tail etc? Are they going to be based at Yeovilton or Culdrose?

As for the aircrew - presumably you are being offered slots with the Chinook Force?

Melchett01 2nd May 2012 16:55


Probably a silly question but does this mean the transfer to the RN is actually occurring?
Yep. RAF told in no uncertain terms to get on with it and stop waffling / stalling / prevaricating.

Finnpog 2nd May 2012 17:27

It still should be not too much to expect the chain of command to provide all folk on the squadrons (not just the aircrew) some broad information on what posting opportunities are planned.

The same is true for the wider station infrastructure.

This is in no way a suprise. There must be a plan. (That is just me being an optomist).

Tourist 2nd May 2012 17:41

No, It isn't going to the RN.

If it was, then surely chopabeefer would have been on here to eat humble pie?....

http://www.pprune.org/military-aircr...urvive-16.html

GalleyTeapot 2nd May 2012 17:43

Nimrod folk went through this when that was scrapped, guess who has had to reduce their branch numbers by 50% between last year and 2015. Unfortunatly something similar must be coming the way of the Merlin crews now as other flying or ground jobs just arent there!

Rigga 2nd May 2012 21:35

GT,
Do you mean that some crew will go to the states for years to sit in the ex-presidential 101's waiting for some future delivery to the RAF of a totally unrelated craft?

OafOrfUxAche 2nd May 2012 22:23


RAF told in no uncertain terms to get on with it and stop waffling / stalling / prevaricating
Procrastinating, shurely?

Lima Juliet 2nd May 2012 22:26

Err, prevaricating fits as well - it means being evasive...:confused:

And stop calling him Shirley...:}

Unchecked 3rd May 2012 09:03

Althenick

Can't just transfer to the RN - they've always maintained that their numbers are spot on and that they can fully man the Merlin, so surely there aren't any slots for RAF aircrew to transfer into ? Apparently all of their costings for the transfer have always been spot on too. Looking forward to seeing them published - then we can all see if this is all worth it.

Pheasant

Yes, it is going ahead - I know in the past I've said it wouldn't but it is very much so. Humble pie being eaten here for you Tourist. Don't know anything about the marinisitation of the cabs, the biggest challenge is going to get the crews trained against the background of operations whilst the RAF guys also try and get released into other jobs. No, the RAF will not automatically pick up a Chinook cockpit, or a Puma cockpit or any other cockpit.the original plan was 28 merlin's for 24 new chinooks - that ain't happening, go figure.

Melchett01 3rd May 2012 09:11


Procrastinating, shurely?
We started by procrastinating and when that didn't work moved onto prevaricating. Neither seems to have worked in the grand scheme of things.

And whilst Merlin may have been a political choice foisted on the Air Force many moons ago rather than the military preference, those cries throughout the intervening years of get rid of it and give us Chinook would now seem to fall into the bracket of be careful what you wish for given the uncertainty being created in the current fiscally constrained times.

Unchecked 3rd May 2012 09:16

It was only the chinook force making those cries, I believe.

VinRouge 3rd May 2012 09:39

this isnt just affecting the rotary guys. unfortunately, other streams are being affected by not enough cockpits for pilots, with light at the end of the tunnel, situation reversed in 2-3 years.

The easiest solution bearing in mind there are absolutely no quality desk jobs out there for development would be to let some of us take a bloody good break after 9 years flat out doing some local community work or even go back do a masters etc. Unfortunately, there seems to be no emphasis on stability or development, as manning unfortunately dont have the jobs for people to go to it seems.

Unchecked 3rd May 2012 09:44

Vin.

What light at the end of the tunnel ?

TAC Queen 3rd May 2012 10:23

The light at the end of the tunnel has been switched off to save money (£0.22 annual saving).
While this cost saving measure is in place MoD has asked the defense industry to design a new lightweight multi role light bulb and has set aside a budget of 1.9 million over three years. The team will be headed by 1x 3 star and 2x 2 star and 1x 1star, these will all be new appointments and thus ensure that the HM Forces maintains more stars than cars.

Unchecked 3rd May 2012 11:19

Brilliant TACQ. Thanks ! :ok:

chopper2004 3rd May 2012 12:43

There's always the old saying "grass is greener on the other side" :) In this case its finding work in the Land of Black Gold, the land of plentiful curry spices, textiles etc and a former French colony via a nice interview and maybe a checkride or two in an office in the middle of a classic Somerset town!

Then again flying training for the former French colony operators seems to be taking place a lot in a former Nimrod colony lately :)

chopabeefer 3rd May 2012 18:47

How many people were posted to the New Nimrod? before it was cancelled...

How many hired by Soteria (SAR-H) before SARH was cancelled (I know a few)...

Navy crew training at Benson - Gee, I am worried.

It's staying.:ok:


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