USN calls for new fighter - they never learn
 

According to Flight this week the USN are looking for a new fighter for post 2030

They want persistent air defence capability, air to air refueling, tactical recce, surveillance, target acquisition, airborne electronic attack - can be manned, optionally manned, unmanned

has to fly faster, fly further and linger longer than current designs with a greater payload

Once again reaching for the moon looking to spend zillions before it's cancelled

How many will the usual PPRuNe suspects want us to buy?

Ah!

The USN is in luck, I am in the position to offer the Navy a modernised, network focused, force multiplying, negative war-fighter deficit, pro US job creating, fixed price do-able system of systems!

I call it the UAS-A12 the III, or if our clients prefer, the USA-12 Revenger III.

What are they going to do with all the (virtually) factory fresh '35s, I wonder.

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Many thanks Willard, and nice images too!

Dead in the water (no pun intended) obviously.

As you have shown your hand in a demo without "US Navy" painted on thee aircraft they will dismiss your submission and buy something more expensive.

As an aside isn't the A-12 a very 2nd generation 'stealth' LO. I'm guessing F-22, F-35 PAK-FA and J-20 would be grouped as 3rd generation.
Therefore what ever it is they want in 2030 probably won't use current LO solutions, maybe multi-spectral 'cloaking' devices will be available by then that allow more freedom for aerodynamic flair?

This weeks flight magazine article says it need not be a new design but could be an already existing a/c type.

Super....... duper Hornet? :O

Use them as planned.


The USN has made it very clear that this is to partner with the UCAV program as the replacement for F/A-18E/F... NOT F-35C!

F-35C has, for the last 5 years or so, been scheduled to only replace F/A-18A/B/C/D Hornets, not Super Hornets.

The USN staked its bet on a UCAV only" SH replacement some 5 years ago, and there was not supposed to be another manned carrier-fighter bought, but the USN has backed off this.



Of course, journos with: an axe to grind/desire to "sex the story up" to boost sales/complete ignorance/refusal to believe they are being told the truth, and random internet posters with the same issues, are blathering on about how this is actually a substitute for F-35C... but they are very wrong.

I wonder if WO'S will bid...

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WW's pics are a nice updating of an Ho 229.

JAS

Yawn.

It was a rhetorical, tongue in cheek, question. I wasn't looking for an answer.

F35D/E/F......??

I gather that the USN have also now realised that drones (of whichever 3-or 4-letter abbreviation/acronym/initialism is currently in vogue) aren't exactly living up to their protagonists' boasts.....:rolleyes:

Thank you kindly for the re-size - deleting my post. :ok:

Likewise. I don't have a problem with screen resolution so it all looked perfectly normal to me :p

"F-35C has, for the last 5 years or so, been scheduled to only replace F/A-18A/B/C/D Hornets, not Super Hornets.

"The USN staked its bet on a UCAV only SH replacement some 5 years ago, and there was not supposed to be another manned carrier-fighter bought, but the USN has backed off this."

Not entirely correct.

The JSF has never been intended as the SH replacement, in part because IOC was originally planned to be only 11 years after the SH with deliveries completed in the early 2020s. On the other hand, the SH was never intended to be the C/D replacement, but this will begin to happen willy-nilly if production is continued.

I don't think that there is. or has ever been, a USN commitment to UCAV. Rather, when the J-UCAS program came apart in 2005-06, the Navy recognized that it could be used to demonstrate the principle of a CV-based unmanned stealth platform and persisted with X-47B.

Do you reckon they'd notice if we repackaged the Canberra again? We could even stick a hook on it, I'm sure we've got a few left . . .

I think you're all barking up the wrong tree.

Search for 'Boeing F/A-XX', the A-12 concept is even older than Beagles' piss stained cruddies.