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Dambusters the Movie - more rumours
Managed to get a trip to Wellington, Miramar and Weta's shop / museum today.
During a conversation with one of the staff, it appears that the Dambuster film is still 5+ years away. Sir Peter Jackson is committed to several big projects (Hobbit, Tintin 2 at least). An interesting snippet is that apparently a large tranch of war-time archives has been recently de-classified - so much so that Stephen Fry who has been working on the script for the movie is said to have thrown his current efforts away and starting from scratch again. Can anybody closer to the archives shed any light on what has surfaced? |
1 reply and we're already going off topic - I apologise. The tenuous link is that Stephen Fry is clearly still thinking about 617 Sqn as he's only just tweeted a link promoting their charity fund raising.
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Hopefully Messrs Jackson and Fry will be far too busy to ever remake a movie which does not need remaking. God forbid that the political correctness brigade will bring in the inevitable baggage that they promote above and beyond the name of the dog. Ok, the original is not completely accurate, the special effects not so special but they did have three Lancs to play with alongside a few Lincolns in the distance. Scampton had not changed very much and most of the cast had served in the war and thus looked the part unlike those in 633 which looked as it they had just walked off 1960's Carnaby St which indeed they probably had just done so.
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How can you say it "doesn't need remaking" when you don't even know what's been declassified?
If the objective is to accurately portray history, and the declassified files show that the original does not do so, then where does that leave your argument? |
Ok then, we'll have half a dozen Yanks to fly with McCarthy in a B17. We know about the dog which we'd better have in yellow rather than black. A bit of sex in the mess just to spice things up a bit and lets give the enemy a more human side whilst we are about it. Concentrate on the victims not the heroes, bags of computer graphics, we'll get Glenn Miller into no. 2 hangar for a wheeze and lets see Gibson throwing his VC into the River Ouse as an act of contrition.
Was the Great Escape accurate - no, Longest Day - no, Zulu - no etc etc. If Jackson wanted to make a new fictional movie on the subject of the sacrifice made within Bomber Command, then fine, no problem. Perhaps he could attempt a decent rendition of Birdsong after the recent weak BBC effort. If you want absolute accuracy, which after seventy years will be difficult, then go and read the documents and books, then exercise your imagination.:E |
If you really believe that the objective of any commercial adventure film is accurately to portray history, you must live on a different planet to mine.
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Ok then, we'll have half a dozen Yanks to fly with McCarthy in a B17. We know about the dog which we'd better have in yellow rather than black. A bit of sex in the mess just to spice things up a bit and lets give the enemy a more human side whilst we are about it. Concentrate on the victims not the heroes, bags of computer graphics, we'll get Glenn Miller into no. 2 hangar for a wheeze and lets see Gibson throwing his VC into the River Ouse as an act of contrition. Was the Great Escape accurate - no, Longest Day - no, Zulu - no etc etc. If Jackson wanted to make a new fictional movie on the subject of the sacrifice made within Bomber Command, then fine, no problem. Perhaps he could attempt a decent rendition of Birdsong after the recent weak BBC effort. If you want absolute accuracy, which after seventy years will be difficult, then go and read the documents and books, then exercise your imagination.http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...ilies/evil.gif |
computer graphics, we'll get Glenn Miller into no. 2 hangar for a wheeze and lets see Gibson throwing his VC into the River Ouse as an act of contrition. LJ ;) |
Beamer:"A bit of sex in the mess just to spice things up a bit" |
NX611
Dumb question time: how many close-to-flyable Lancasters are there? Is NX611 close to flying? How many were they planning on using? If it's all going to be CGI, then why bother?
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Hope it never gets made as quite simply even inaccurate the old movie is there as a part of history..................
In the words of Jeff Goldblum in Jurassic Park "Just because you can.............doesn't mean you should" |
Can anybody closer to the archives shed any light on what has surfaced? |
Whatever happened to Red Tails? There have been ads for the movie on Youtube for over a year yet nothing has materialized?
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Does anyone have any more details on what archives have been 'recently declassified'?
As far as I am aware, the overwhelming majority of wartime archives at Kew have been available to the public for quite some time, with the exception of some SOE and SIS files, so that surviving 'sources' and 'assets' and their descendants are protected. Air Historical Branch routinely ensures that RAF records are transferred to Kew on a regular basis, and thus hold very few original documents themselves. Could this be German or other Allied archives? |
Originally Posted by beamer
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Ok then, we'll have half a dozen Yanks to fly with McCarthy in a B17.
We know about the dog which we'd better have in yellow rather than black. A bit of sex in the mess just to spice things up a bit lets give the enemy a more human side whilst we are about it. Concentrate on the victims not the heroes, The staff car out pacing the flood. The explosion blooming out at a gentle running pace to the enemy can keep just out of the fireball. |
Now that someones mentioned it...... Will we get to see that picture again....????? Go on... please!!!
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We're making this for modern audiences remember. So the love interest will be between a pilot and his rear gunner.
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RLE: Were you using the physical seperation of those two crew positions as a metaphor for the difficulties they had to overcome in their relationship or as a euphemism? I think we should be told.
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We're making this for modern audiences remember. So the love interest will be between a pilot and his rear gunner. Perhaps we should be told............. |
I thought they had already re-made it for a younger audience?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVSBtivbUs4 Note the duration of film (perfect for those young 'uns with the attention span of a goldfish), overt references to beer and football, no mention of the war... |
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