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appleavi8or 28th Feb 2012 15:28

Solicitor recommendation please.
 
I am planning to sue the MOD for compensation for a significant issue with my pension. It amounts to the promise of one thing and the delivery of another (possibly promissory estoppel). It seems it's OK for the MOD/SPVA to change their minds but not give me the opportunity to pursue a different career in retrospect.

I have to go for a no-win, no-fee arrangement & therefore would see that as a reasonable indicator of my chances of success.

I am hoping that someone has had experience of such an action and can recommend an individual/company who might take me on.

Thank you PPruners.

ZH875 28th Feb 2012 15:35

Where is Gilbert Blades when you need him.


Good luck on finding a solicitor.

Good luck for peeing into the wind, you will have more chance of success than your planned action.

Old-Duffer 28th Feb 2012 15:50

May I suggest that you exhaust all other forms of negotiation or arbitration before you embark on the courtroom drama bit.

I also suggest that you join or consult the Forces Pension Society and speak with Lt Cdr David Marsh at that organisation. You should also make sure that there are no time limits relating to any action you propose so that your claim is not 'struck out' as time barred.

RAF News (hiss, spit etc etc etc) and Soldier magazine often contain adverts from the legal profession. Your station library may have copies of a magazine called: The Pennant, which also contains adverts of the sort you seek.

Old Duffer

SirPeterHardingsLovechild 28th Feb 2012 15:54

MPH Solicitors advertise on one of the PPRuNe banners.

They specialise in injury, rather than your case, but maybe worth an exchange of e mails. They have had experience in all the headline stuff.

No win no fee? There is a posh version called 'Conditional Fee'

What the Fug 28th Feb 2012 15:58

Find a lawyer who can instruct Mrs. C. Blair

appleavi8or 28th Feb 2012 17:23

Thank you to those who have PM'd me & taken me seriously.

The Armed Forces Pension Society, of which I have been a member for a number of years, we're dismissive along the lines of, 'personal problem mate'. The SPVA's attitude is, 'yes, we got it wrong but tough'.

I seem to have litigation as the next option. I also realise that a solicitor or partnership will not take the case unless they consider there to be a greater than 50% chance of success - so it will be a good litmus test.

Thanks again.

Courtney Mil 28th Feb 2012 17:47

Good luck, Apple. From little I know of your case, it sounds to me like you should go ahead. If we ever 'got it wrong' when making a claim, we'd quickly find ourselves facing an investigation for fraud. Whenever 'they' get it wrong, it seems to be 'tough sh1t'. Perhaps you could let us know how how things go.

Again, good luck.

Courtney

Seldomfitforpurpose 28th Feb 2012 17:55

Was seriously considering joining the Forces Pension Society but by the sounds of it best I keep my money in my pocket.

Courtney Mil 28th Feb 2012 18:13

The FPS costs money? What are we supposed to get for it?

Old-Duffer 28th Feb 2012 18:24

I too am surprised at the negative vibes from the FPS. I suggest a letter to the DG and copied to the senior single service trustee, expressing grave displeasure.

From what you have posted, I also suggest you involve your MP.

Old Duffer

airpolice 28th Feb 2012 19:02

Captain Apple, as a British Army Officer of a certain age, (we probably joined up at the same time, although at opposite ends of the spectrum) you ought to be able to pursue the "no win - very little cost" option of representing yourself.

Your lack of legal training and relevant qualifications would be taken into account by the court and gain you some considerable leeway.

What, if anything do you have to lose? During my service as an lowly airman, I met a few Army officers and since leaving, I have come to know a good few more. All of whom, even the **** who worked in Edinburgh Castle, struck me as capable of standing up in court and giving a fair account of themselves.

Success in such an endeavour would leave the entire proceeds for yourself as opposed to funding a firm of Ambulance chasers. Failure would at least provide some sport and the makings of a good book about David & Goliath.

NewsOfTheWorld 28th Feb 2012 19:11


Failure would at least provide some sport and the makings of a good book about David & Goliath.
... and of course the defendants legal bill!

Goprdon 28th Feb 2012 19:17

Sorry but: Represent yourself and you have a fool for a lawyer.

Lima Juliet 28th Feb 2012 19:17

I too resisted joining the Society as the only advice they had on my circumstances in the "members only" section was wrong - how do I know? I asked a friend to check for me on advice on my circumstance who had paid the subs very recently. The advice in question was for the requirement for the 30 day gap between Regular and FTRS - the advice in recent copies of Pathfinder was also wrong, wrong, wrong.

BTW if you're a Regular on AFPS75 transferring to FTRS you do not need a 30 day gap - in fact you need no gap at all! Simply leave on one day and join the next. I know because I did exactly that, no penalty and no loss of gratuity. That advice is free and I won't be charging for that :ok:

That said, the Society is useful for providing a voice for lobbying Whitehall on our issues - sadly, this time, I fear their comment will be ignored. I also know that they have done good work for others that have not read into their scheme as well as they could have (most of the documents you need are online with Pensions booklets and the JSPs).

LJ

johnnypaveway 28th Feb 2012 19:34

LJ, pse forgive my ignorance I know that I should know better but I thought the 30-day clause was only for re-settlement allowances and warrants etc......

I stand by to be educated as I have just (terminal grant in bank yesterday;)) done the same thing- but to be fair I just wanted a month off!

Sorry for thread drift

Lima Juliet 28th Feb 2012 21:00

JohnnyPW

Try looking at this... http://www.pathfinderinternational.c..._pdf=1&id=1034

Or page 6 at this link:

http://www.pathfinderinternational.c...010%20Full.pdf

The advice is saying again a break in 30 days - which for AFPS 75 is simply untrue. You can leave one day and start the next.

I went straight to the "organ grinder" at JPAC and SPVA and they said I didn't need to take the break. Which was contrary to the advice coming forth from the articles by the Society.

Make sense?

LJ

Scuttled 28th Feb 2012 23:19

Serious enquiry about this.

Are you permitted to sue the MOD whilst a serving officer? Is it mutinous? If not, is it mutinous if 3 or more joined together to test the water in court? If not mutinous, would the old QR 1001 rear it's head? Would you be on duty in court, or on leave?

In fact, scrub that and replace with:

Can it be done and if so what is the procedure?

pr00ne 28th Feb 2012 23:42

appleavi8or,

Under no circumstances should you consider representing yourself!

Are you still serving?

If you are then you are on an extremely sticky wicket.

NutLoose 29th Feb 2012 00:10

Surely the way round that is to get the nearest and dearest to do the suing as it effects them to... Bit like that Navy chappie and the Harrier ski jump, ( remember those... Harriers) to get round the your design is our design rule, it was patented in his wife's name I believe, as the military then had to pay up to use it.

teeteringhead 29th Feb 2012 08:03


Where is Gilbert Blades when you need him.
.. probably retired by now.

Saw him "perform" at a GCM some time ago, and was not impressed .... left yawning gaps of logic which even this simple GD/P could identify ....

.... I think his success was partly reputation - to which ZH875 contributes - and partly down to the skill and competence (sic) of DLS .....


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