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Bronx 22nd Feb 2012 07:42

Apache clips power lines
 
BBC News - Army helicopter makes emergency landing in Suffolk

Apache crash lands in field - News - Sudbury Mercury

Nopax,thanx 22nd Feb 2012 08:18

I hear from a 'local' that Wherestead is close to a 'caravan park'......


They'd better get the airframe recovered pronto before someone nicks it and weighs in the aluminium :p

Navy_Adversary 22nd Feb 2012 08:43

It wasn't HRH was it?:8

Phantom Phlyer 22nd Feb 2012 09:56

Can't see any damage to the main rotors, 2 separate tail rotors (!) or FCR from the photos. A bit left wing low is all...

Underwires crossing was not taught on CTR so can only assume that he drifted from a BP or bust his MSD over the pylons!!! :uhoh:

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622 22nd Feb 2012 10:12

re: It wasn't HRH was it?

If it was....the power line installer will be sacked... :)

Sandy Parts 22nd Feb 2012 14:00

re:it wasn't HRH was it?
Any rather large houses nearby containing some young filly likely to be impressed by someone showing off their chopper? Isn't there family history on that issue....?

green granite 22nd Feb 2012 14:09

How well do powerlines show up on NVGs?

wahwah64 22nd Feb 2012 15:38

wires clipped in decent to landing, all safe, aircraft has been, how shall we say.....supercharged.
Hence a low loader recovery.

[email protected] 22nd Feb 2012 15:39

Not as well as the pylons themselves and even they can be difficult to spot in poor light levels and precipitation.

Not sure if the apache crews are using NVG and the 'system' or just the 'system' which is IR and therefore susceptible to precipitation removing any thermal contrast.

The fact is that all the wires are marked on the maps that their FOB mandates they carry.

wahwah64 22nd Feb 2012 15:40

all depends on the thermal crossover at the time. ranges from excellent to invisible

dead_pan 22nd Feb 2012 16:52

What about GPS? Or is that too obvious?

racedo 22nd Feb 2012 17:52

Hope they missed the School, Hospital, Old People's home that miraculously sprung up in the 20 minutes before the incident :rolleyes:

racedo 22nd Feb 2012 17:54


What about GPS? Or is that too obvious?
Given media hyping on about GPS disruptors today please don't give them another story to rant on about as reason for the incident.

NutLoose 22nd Feb 2012 18:14

Seems a shame to write off those 5 main rotorblades and 7 tail rotorblades that were damaged in the incident and strike them from inventory. :E

racedo 22nd Feb 2012 18:45


Seems a shame to write off those 5 main rotorblades and 7 tail rotorblades that were damaged in the incident and strike them from inventory. http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...ilies/evil.gif
Oh you cynic..............

iRaven 22nd Feb 2012 19:23

No it can't be "Ginge" as he is a nose-gunner :p

Could be the last? 22nd Feb 2012 19:43

Guessing the AH doesn't have a Wire Strike Protection System then?

Aquatone1 22nd Feb 2012 19:50

The Apache has cable cutters on the upper and lower fuselage. I wonder which one, if either, operated in this case?

west lakes 22nd Feb 2012 20:05

From the number of customers affected this would have, in all probability, been an 11,000V or 6,600 volt line on wood poles, these will have been below 45ft in height.
As the wires are all below about 15mm in diameter and down to 5mm they don't show on NVG apparatus (we have trialled it to find faults at night).

The sheer amount of lines at these voltages would make it too big a task to put them all on GPS.

As an example the area I work in is about 1300 square kilometers, we have about 1700km of lines of these voltages

TheWizard 22nd Feb 2012 20:19


“Our engineers are currently on site and have established that a 132,000 volt overhead power line has been damaged.
Seems a bit bigger than a 15mm cable??
The pylon behind the engineer in the video doesn't look much like a wooden pole either!!


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