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Finningley Boy 19th Feb 2012 12:59

Queen's Diamond Jubilee Celebrations
 
Ministry of Defence | Defence News | History and Honour | Armed Forces to mount spectacular tribute for Queen's Diamond Jubilee

It's a shame that a similar military spectacle of Silver Jubilee proportions can't be laid on.:(

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pr00ne 19th Feb 2012 13:10

No it isnt...

Melchett01 19th Feb 2012 13:11

Lets hope the fly past is a bit less 'blink and you miss it' than the one we did for the wedding last year. :sad:

BEagle 19th Feb 2012 14:20

It would be interesting to see a table comparing the numbers of aircraft, numbers of squadrons, numbers of airfields and number of personnel serving in the regular RAF at the time of the Queen's coronation, Silver Jubilee, Golden Jubilee and Diamond Jubilee....

The 1953 Coronation Review at Odiham included a flypast by 641 aircraft and a static display of a further 318. Perhaps the Diamond Jubilee flypast might run to the BBMF, Reds and 4 TypHoons? But that's probably about all...:uhoh:

TheWizard 19th Feb 2012 14:29

You can go back 10 years here
Defence Analytical Services and Advice: TSP 1

and see the difference. I would imagine going back any further would be a sobering prospect!! :uhoh:

Wensleydale 19th Feb 2012 15:04

I graduated from OCTU Henlow on Silver Jubillee day (2 Jun 1977)! It was rumoured that we may get a Royal for the parade, but we were unlucky. A couple of weeks later I was at the Finningley review - the OCTU exhibit in the hangar had an 8ft close-up photograph of me on the parade at the entrance. My career went downhill ever since!

CoffmanStarter 19th Feb 2012 15:08

As BEagle points out ... RAF Odiam in 1953 must have been an impressive sight for HRH :{

RAF Royal Review 15th July 1953

Coff.

Finningley Boy 20th Feb 2012 10:02


No it isnt...
Surely pr00ne, you must have bristled with pride at a show like the Silver Jubilee review of the R.A.F. or the B.O.B. 50th Anniversary Flypast, you took part possibly?:confused:

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Wycombe 20th Feb 2012 10:58

Quote from the link above:


An impressive, tri-Service flypast of current and historic aircraft will conclude the celebrations.
Bearing in mind this is going to be in Windsor, should be fun if Heathrow's on easterlies :hmm:

mikip 20th Feb 2012 13:46

Are there enough armed forces left to mount a spectacular dislplay?

teeteringhead 20th Feb 2012 14:01

And the Odiham/Coronation Review and Flypast - as BEags correctly states: 641 flying and 318 static - only used UK based aircraft - none from Germany or further afield. :eek:

WillDAQ 20th Feb 2012 14:14


Originally Posted by mikip (Post 7038773)
Are there enough armed forces left to mount a spectacular dislplay?

That depends if they're allowed to go weapons hot...

diginagain 20th Feb 2012 14:28


Originally Posted by mikip
Are there enough armed forces left to mount a spectacular dislplay?

Might just be able to rustle-up a Joint Force Gym-queen Display...........

zedder 20th Feb 2012 16:20

If they bring the Gay Pride day forward compared to last year (2nd Jul 11) they could put on a thoroughly queentastic event!

I wonder if I am due any E&D training before my exit date?

Warmtoast 20th Feb 2012 16:31

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...heFly-past.jpg

Details of Queen's Coronation Review at Odiham on 15th July 1953 above.

The earlier coronation fly-past on 2nd June 1953 in front of Buckingham Palace was a different affair entirely. It consisted of 168 fighters (144 R.A.F. Meteors and 24 R.C.A.F. Sabres). In those days Buckingham Palace fly-pasts flew from south to north past the palace, rather than as they do now from east to west down the Mall.

The route was over the Thames Estuary to Canterbury, the feeding-in point for the the various wings. From Canterbury, south to Dungeness, on to Hastings Pier continuing to Bexhill where the formations turned north towards Biggin Hill and then over south London to fly past the front of the palace.

teeteringhead


only used UK based aircraft - none from Germany or further afield.
Not quite. See the entries showing 2nd T.A.F (Germany based) aircraft. And some R.A.A.F. aircraft too - not sure where they came from / were based.

Melchett01 20th Feb 2012 16:33


If they bring the Gay Pride day forward compared to last year (2nd Jul 11) they could put on a thoroughly queentastic event!
And what if they included the Gym Queens in the same parade? Or would that be too many queens in one parade in celebration of the Queen? No doubt some of the republicans would be quite happy and say that HM was one queen too much.

On second thoughts, best not give the EO brigade any idea.

Warmtoast 20th Feb 2012 17:58

Re my post #15 above.

According to Wiki between 1952 - 1954 75 & 76 Sqn RAAF was based in Malta and equipped with Vampires leased from the RAF.

CoffmanStarter 20th Feb 2012 19:16

Must have been some serious beer flowing in the Mess :ok:

Coff.

Willard Whyte 20th Feb 2012 20:39


No doubt some of the republicans would be quite happy and say that HM was one queen too much.
One Q/queen is all this country needs.

pr00ne 20th Feb 2012 21:15

Willard Whyte,


But we've had loads, loads and loads of em!

Jimlad1 20th Feb 2012 22:02

While I would dearly have loved to have seen a 641 aircraft flyby, I can't help but wonder how operationally effective they all were. How many would have been needed to acheive the same effect as 16 Typhoons had in Libya?

I'm also prepared to place a large waver that when the flypast occurs, there will be a flood of posters on PPRUNE and elsewhere complaining about how many spare aircraft we have to go galivanting off on jollies and not ops. (I have heard a figure from good source on the planned numbers in flypast, but am not saying a number as I've not heard it publicly confirmed yet)

teeteringhead 21st Feb 2012 06:37

Warmtoast - many thanks for your correction. Still a mightily impressive UK contribution.

Tankertrashnav 21st Feb 2012 14:41

Warmtoast - thanks for that flypast list. I see some interesting names there - the Valiant being flown by one E.B.Trubshaw - Brian Trubshaw of Concorde fame, and the Hunter being flown by the legendary Neville Duke.

We still have "the right stuff" these days, it's just that they have so few aircraft in which to show us what they can do :(

Warmtoast 21st Feb 2012 15:56

Tankertrashnav


I see some interesting names there
Apologies for the thread creep.

When I originally posted the list of particpants in the Queen's Coronation Review at Odiham in another thread a couple of years ago, someone commented that there were three prominent Battle of Britain pilots leading the Meteor formations i.e. Dennis Cowley-Milling, Bobby Oxspring and Paddy Barthropp.

So passed on FWIW.

Tankertrashnav 21st Feb 2012 22:13

No apologies required Warmtoast

If the BBMF Dakota is down to fly, might be a good idea to get as many as possible who took part in the 1953 review to fly onboard! Sure there must be quite a few still around, and I'm sure they'd be up for it.

teeteringhead 22nd Feb 2012 10:28

Had an aged spec aircrew sqn ldr working for me once (er - not that aged - four years younger than I am now :() who had flown a Meteor in the Coronation Flypast.

Told some wonderful tales about it - I particularly remember him telling of more than one Sabre that flamed out and left the mega-formation - only to rejoin after a successful re-light! What wonderful spirit, which is sadly unimaginable today.

Old-Duffer 22nd Feb 2012 18:41

Coffman Starter

Shame on you Sir,

It's HM not HRH

O-D

CoffmanStarter 22nd Feb 2012 19:22

O-D ... duly admonished this end !

Coff.

Duncan D'Sorderlee 22nd Feb 2012 20:24

Mrs D'Sorderlee was told today (by e-mail) that, despite being previously told that she, and her colleagues - apart from those required for essential duties - would be given 5 Jun 12 off in order to celebrate HM Diamond Jubilee, following discussion with Nicola Sturgeon MSP, that was no longer the case and it will be work as usual.

The best made schemes o' mice an' men gang aft agley!

Not chuffed.

Duncs:ok:

Finningley Boy 22nd Feb 2012 20:33


While I would dearly have loved to have seen a 641 aircraft flyby, I can't help but wonder how operationally effective they all were. How many would have been needed to acheive the same effect as 16 Typhoons had in Libya?

A good question Jimlad 1. Does anyone know how many aircraft and of what types were deployed during the Suez Crisis, just three years later on from 1953?

I understand that apart from R.A.F. Valiants, Canberras and Venoms the FAA weighed in with Carrier-borne Sea Hawks and Sea Venoms.

But that said, lots of questions will still remain unanswered. For example; Were the aircraft deployed in Suez made available with ease and able to cope easel? And were the aircraft deployed in Ellamy as much as the R.A.F. dare deploy without inviting serious risks and would they have been much happier with a degree of slack as I imagine they had plenty of during Suez and still cope admirably?:)

Woops! Am I now guilty of inviting thread drift on my own thread!?!?!?!:confused:

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Airborne Aircrew 22nd Feb 2012 21:21

Who remembers Eelibuj? Or was it just my locality?

Ron Cake 23rd Feb 2012 16:13

Finningley Boy

'... (were)aircraft deployed for Suez with ease...'

Not entirely. Shackletons had to pressed into service as troop transports

A2QFI 23rd Feb 2012 19:48

Some names on that list that went on to be well known in aviation circles!

H N G Wheeler
Crowley-Milling
Bartropp (Spelling)
Trubshaw
Falk
Waterton
Duke
Lithgow

A roll call of test pilots!

Finningley Boy 24th Feb 2012 00:27


Shackletons had to pressed into service as troop transports
Ron,

I don't doubt that they were, but on the subject of the overall number of aircraft deployed compared with the assets available, while transport may have been a weak force at the time, I imagine that aircraft from the Ground Attack and Air Defence elements would have posed less of a headache. But by contrast with Ellamy, I understand that there was definitely concern about what would happen if something else happened.

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Whenurhappy 24th Feb 2012 07:02

There is also Sqn Ldr Gartrell RNZAF listed - he subsequently served with distinction during the Emergency in Malaya and ended up as RNZAF DCAS in the early 1970s.

scudpilot 19th Apr 2012 22:27

Anyone know what the lineup is likely to be for this yet?

Double Hush 20th Apr 2012 05:42

There are 2 flypasts - 19th May and 5th Jun. On the 19th May there is a large formation flying over Windsor Castle as outlined in the following CAA information -http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?catid=14&pagetype=65&appid=7&mode=detail&ni d=2105

It looks like the events are opened with a Typhoon flypast then, an hour later, the biggie - lots of helicopters, BBMF, Tucanos in a '60' formation, Hercs, VC-10 + 2 Tornadoes, Hawks in an EIIR formation and finally the Reds.

On 5th Jun,all I have is the following - "Shortly after their arrival, The Queen, The Duke of Edinburgh, and other Members of The Royal Family will appear on the Balcony, at which point there will be an RAF Flypast and a Feu de Joie (“Fire of Joy” – a celebratory cascade of rifle fire given as a salute by The Queen’s Guard) from the Forecourt". Dunno what will be flying though.

theboywide 20th Apr 2012 11:57

May 19 is the Military Diamond Jubilee flypast
Junes flypast is the Queens Birthday, which I'd expect will be on a slightly smaller scale.

Airborne Aircrew 20th Apr 2012 13:27


at which point there will be an RAF Flypast and a Feu de Joie
I wonder how many they will shoot down?

erikk the redd 6th May 2012 18:01

Does anyone know the timing for overhead windsor?


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