Here are 2 photos I've just scanned in from my GW1 album of the ALARM fit previosuly mentioned.

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink

I'd embed them if I knew how. :confused: :(

Also came across this pic of the demise of one of our jets.

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink

ZA 466/ 18 Oct 90 / Tabuk. I remember it well, not a lot of fun but at least we survived.

Thankfully you did.

I recall the efforts to get you both back to Blighty, with the catering truck lifting Ivor's.....I'm not sure what it was called, but he was clamped into it well.....into the Tristar.

I did ask for a large G&T to dull the pain in my broken legs but 2 Paracetamol was the only offer!

Is it true that the back of this jet was married to the front of one that had a R Fus fire to produce a cut'n'shut?

Yes it was but the resulting aircraft was a little weird. Even with just outboard stores it was a little reluctant to go supersonic and when it did there was an unusual (but brief) yaw accompanied by a worrying howl from the canopy which vibrated to the touch.

Never liked that aircraft and the display crew would not touch it.

Bobby

Glad to hear you're alive and kicking:E. I was back seat in the replacement aircraft that we ferried out from LBH (and forever grateful that I did not have to operate from those sh*tty conditions).

Mind you, Dharhan wasn't much better - but we only had to endure that from about day -2 until endex.

All the best

Harry (Mister B to you!)

SAMXXV

I think you are muddling up your war stories ..... again. The incident being discussed (ZA466 Oct 90) is this one (or click here for the MOD summary) .... the one your 'story' relates to is, I believe, this one (ZD893 Jan 91 - and IIRC neither crew member was called Robert in this accident either .....)

Sorry Sam but Wrathmonk is correct, Bobby A jumped out of the barrier strike jet.

SAMXXV

Wrong ..... again - on both counts.

The names of the crew of ZD893 are open source and can be found here.

Strangely the ZA466 accident is not on that site.

I would give up on the 'war stories' until you can get your facts right.

PS - Bob The Builder went on to get a DFC for GW1 - if he had jumped out of the jet in either Oct 90 or Jan 91 how exactly would this have been possible ....?

Sam...I was there, you're wrong.

This is turning into one of those rare gems of a thread that make PPRuNE worth returning to.

Keep the stories - and photos - coming!

I took this photo the morning following the accident.

And this.

I tried to post a couple of photos but couldn't seem to work it, despite following the instructions on the FAQs. Any tips?

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WTF has my reply gone?

SAM is completely and utterly wrong on all counts with this bolleuax speculation. I was at home base (II(AC)), waiting devlopments and taking a close interest as we had not yet firmed up the potential role/tasking - not to mention getting the IR recce kit fully up to speed.

As I said earlier, I was a crew member delivering a replacement, and taking home a jet needing in-depth servicing (maybe it isn't listed as they allegedly didn't pull the handle, enjoying instead a spontaneous ejaculation - remember this is a rumour site, and that was the rumour at the time. Bobby may be able to expand on this).

The man is trying my patience and normal easy going demeanour with his ill-informed proclamations.

Mister B

HTB
Definitely not a spontaneous ejection, Ivor pulled the handle. My normal last checks before landing were to check the slats were deployed and then check we had 3 greens. As I turned my head forward to check for 3 greens I saw the top 2 feet of the barrier illuminated by the landing lights and braced myself on the top of the TV tabs. The impact set off the MDC which shredded my hands with lead and Perspex. All Ivor heard was the syllable “F” before all h*ll broke loose.

Bobby, what number in the formation were you? IIRC, we were to be in front of you but our jet went u/s on the ground and I heard about it all when someone ran into the MQ whilst I was reading a book.

There was another jet landed ahead of you with another ppruner in the back. They were lucky...you weren't.

I was in the control tower next day and the Saudis claimed the barrier came up of its own accord.

just another jocky,

I think we were number 3 of the front 4 of an 8 ship. After tanking we descended to low level but couldn't get the TFR to engage so we returned to Tabuk. The BoE interviewed the F15 engineers who were looking after the QRA jets at that end of the runway and they said it had been raised for hours.

Bobby A