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The Old Fat One 10th Aug 2011 06:18

Rioting E Petition
 
Mods may I request your indulgence of a non aviation related matter that affects us all in the UK. I'm sure many UK based ppruners will want to sign this e petition

epetitions.direct.gov.uk

Convicted London rioters should loose all benefits. - e-petitions
epetitions.direct.gov.uk Any persons convicted of criminal acts during the current London riots should have all financial benefits removed. No tax payer should have to contribute to those who have destroyed property, stolen from their community and shown a disregard for the country that provides for them.

sorry the link does not go straight to it, but if you go to epetitions and search under riot it pops straight up.

Maybe someone will post the direct link.

BOAC 10th Aug 2011 07:19

Voted for it but it has zero chance as the 'Human Rights' fluffies will kill that. You just CANNOT punish these poor people like that.:ugh:

Laarbruch72 10th Aug 2011 08:03

You can sign as many e-petitions as you please, they're as much use as a chocolate fireguard.

They're purely there to make you feel better... once everybody has electronically signed and registered their electronic rage, it it just goes straight into the electronic bin along with all the other e-petitions.

howiehowie93 10th Aug 2011 08:11

I beg to differ - the "Bring Back the Death Penalty" e-Petition is being debated soon.

Or maybe it wont now!

H

The Old Fat One 10th Aug 2011 08:23

I beg to differ too.

Anything that lets the governement know that their response so far has been found wanting, is worthwhile.

Anything that lets the opposition know that the common man and woman reject any argument that these acts of wanton criminality have got anything to do with economic circumstance is, again, worthwhile.

It's called democracy...the right to have a voice. That's what our armed forces fight for.

Also democracy, the rise in votes for ultra right wing parties, that will part of the backlash against these mindless morons.

tonker 10th Aug 2011 08:52

What we want is quite irrelevant to the political class. Will we get the referendum on Europe we were promised? Never

I'm Off! 10th Aug 2011 08:55

If you're going to start to petition government, at least make sure it is spelt correctly...

barnstormer1968 10th Aug 2011 10:34

Although I believe that e petitions are usually a complete waste of time, the government may actually like this one, as it could show them in a strong and aggressive stance.

Of course, It will not make any difference to any convicted rioters though!

Most are too young to claim benefits
Many are still at school
Many will not be the main benefit claimant in their household

Some will be claiming benefit, but if this is removed they will simply claim subsistence, which is nearly the same rate........But the associated added admin costs will then cost the UK taxpayer more!

sisemen 10th Aug 2011 11:58


Sorry if you're experiencing problems accessing e-petitons. There is currently a much higher level of demand than we expected.
Obviously a bit of a demand!

Pontius Navigator 10th Aug 2011 12:01

How about setting up a school? Anyone who can pass the entrance exam is spared attendance. Anyone else qualified will remain in school until they pass the exams and thus become exempt.

Apart from the 3Rs school would include social responsibility and skills such as building and carpentry. Electrical training would not be required.

I would site such school in somewhere nice like North Rona, Sulga Seigr or St Kilda.:}

pr00ne 10th Aug 2011 13:22

What is it with some of you? First it was "the blacks" now it's the "unemployed." Put your prejudices to one side and realise that this is a hugely complex issue.

The first person up in front of Highbury magistrates for looting and affray this morning was a 31 year old school teacher.

cazatou 10th Aug 2011 13:34

pr00ne

If that School teacher is found "guilty" it might explain where some of the younger "accused" got their ideas from!!

Shack37 10th Aug 2011 14:31


If you're going to start to petition government, at least make sure it is spelt correctly...

Might be an idea to change "Loose" to " Lose" in the title.
Of course you are both correct. We mustn't suggest possible solutions to a minor problem, businesses, dwellings and lives being destroyed by thugs, murderers and thieves, using incorrect grammar and punctuation, must we??
I apologise for any and all grammatical, spelling and punctuation errors.

sabredog 10th Aug 2011 14:44

Shack37,please check your PMs.

Roadster280 10th Aug 2011 16:02


The first person up in front of Highbury magistrates for looting and affray this morning was a 31 year old school teacher.
Was he black?

Shack37 10th Aug 2011 16:08


Shack37,please check your PMs
Sabredog, done and replied:ok:

Two's in 10th Aug 2011 16:26

Brings to mind the old joke about the schoolboy science experiment where he pulls the legs off a spider one at a time and shouts "jump" to see how high the spider will jump. After he pulls the final leg off and shouts "jump", the spider fails to move. The boy's scientific conclusion was that 'after you pull all the legs off a spider, it goes deaf".

Or in this case "after removing welfare benefits from rioters, they fail to riot'.

Really annoyed 10th Aug 2011 16:28


Was he black?
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...70_308x185.jpg

Alexis Bailey, you are a scumbag who deserves to go to Jail.

fantom 10th Aug 2011 16:32

May we introduce gassing, or am I a bit too R wing?

The Old Fat One 10th Aug 2011 16:55

First, apologies for the poor spelling...bit rattled when I was typing it as I had just watched the store where my mum used to take me as a kid trashed by a gang of teenagers...note not black or poor. Just kids who no longer understand discipline, consequence or responsibility. Pidgeons roosting IMHO.

Pr00ne...too many people trying to over complicate this. It's crime QED.

As to the petition...it is now on the BBC news so I guess it is also now on the radar of those who want our votes. I note also Salford have suggested slinging out occupants of their council houses if they have been involved in trashing their own neighbourhood. Bravo Zulu.

Best of all the formidable lady who got in the face of Boris, wanting to know why we can't discipline children anymore. Madam, you were speaking for the silent majority.


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