300 Metres of Chinese Whoopass !
 

At last, a carrier thread! It's about time we had a discussion over whether carriers are the best thing since sliced bread!:)

Old(ish) news...

THE RISING SEA DRAGON IN ASIA VARYAG TRANSFORMATION

Isn't this the carrier that was supposed to be a floating Casino/Hotel/School/Amusement Park/Hospital/insert some other non-military and frankly ludicrous claim here...

We, well, our politicians, never shy clear of having the wool pulled firmly over their eyes and ears by the Chinese.

Pull the other one Qi Jianguo:

Lt Gen Qi Jianguo, assistant chief of the general staff, told the Hong Kong Commercial Daily that even after the aircraft carrier was deployed, it would "definitely not sail to other countries' territorial waters".

One assumes it will therefore sail into the territorial waters China claims to be hers - most of the South China Sea in fact.

I'm sure it'll be seen in the East China Sea, the Pacific China Sea, the Atlantic China Sea, the North China Sea, etc...

What's the old saying

"No such thing as new ships, just new targets!

odd that they are spending money on an IRBM to hit carriers and also spending zillions on an aircraft carrier...............................

Yeah because that would be crazy, like buying and using condoms but still having sex.



This is old news isn't it?


The Chinese have carrier 'hulls' inshore in China that have been used for training. The first carrier is a rebuild of a Russian carrier & mainly is to bring the Chinese some experience of having & using carriers and their intention is to build their own carriers.

They have that nice new Chinese Naval base in Pakistan to visit.

On the BBC news last night they showed the Chinese carrier, and quoted a Chinese official as saying, 'It does not pose a threat to other countries'.

Not a lot of use then, is it!:E

Mechta

LMAO! That's one of the biggest crocks I ever heard!

As it appears to have a ski jump, are the Chinese perhaps going to buy the Harriers?:ooh:

this one doesn't pose s trheat. They're just learning how to weld it together, build / use the on-board systems and make them work, and then sail it. It'll never be properly operational except for flag0-waving
The first one they build from scratch - thats the one to worry about

"this one doesn't pose a threat. They're just learning how to weld it together, build / use the on-board systems and make them work, and then sail it. It'll never be properly operational except for flag0-waving".

:mad::eek::):)

Are you sure that this is not a straight takeout from the SDSR re HMS Queen Elizabeth?

"The first one they build from scratch - thats the one to worry about"

And the 3rd and 4th one's which are likely to be Nuclear powered.

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The Ukraine sold Varyag to China "under the condition she would never be refitted for combat". So is there any substance to any such conditions, and are there any penalties for reneging on them? I take it that all it really means is that Ukraine are mildly annoyed?

Didn't the UK used to sell Hawks to Indonesia in the Soeharto years. 'Planes that were for 'training only'...? But were of course used to bomb the East Timorese.

So they have a carrier - it's been coming for years. Quit whining - you were happy to outsource manufacturing, you were happy to buy cheap stuff...now they have a carrier.

They are only being built because it's more expensive to cancel.

.. and they are probably being assembled in the Premier's constituency. They'll be sorry when the PLA(Navy) has to cut down to only 100 DD/FF, 400 coastal warfare vessels and 50 submarines to compensate.

It;s probably fitted with one of these:

http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/2...lfdestruct.jpg

Turkey didn't allow passage of the Varyag from the Bosphorus Strait for 16 months, until the Chinese Government signed off a 1 Billion USD guarantee that it would not be used for military purposes and guaranteed more Chinese tourists to Turkey. :\

Let's see where this heads...