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T28B 3rd Jun 2020 21:12

Another article on F-117, this one about its air to air role.
https://theaviationist.com/2020/06/0...th-pilot-says/

Ewan Whosearmy 20th Jul 2020 17:38

Not convinced about the F-117 having a secret HVA air-to-air role. Chris Topham was asked the question directly and he said that while it could carry the AIM-9, it had no way of employing it:


etudiant 21st Jul 2020 02:20


Originally Posted by Ewan Whosearmy (Post 10842141)
Not convinced about the F-117 having a secret HVA air-to-air role. Chris Topham was asked the question directly and he said that while it could carry the AIM-9, it had no way of employing it:

https://youtu.be/lJkRREyPXA4

That seems quite consistent with the Aviationist article, which indicates the idea was there but never implemented.

Dan Gerous 21st Jul 2020 10:06

I got in on a visit to the sneaky site at Khamis after GW1, and asked one of the pilots if they did any Air Combat training on the F117 . He said they didn't do any. At least we got an answer to that one, as I think some of the questions we asked were a bit to sensitive to answer.

LOMCEVAK 21st Jul 2020 11:45

I have seen a picture of a test firing. As I recall the missile was lowered from the bomb bay on the trapeze and then fired. I do not know whether this was a boost non-guided firing or a guided launch.

Tashengurt 21st Jul 2020 13:20

I heard a podcast in which the ex F117 guy said they had a plan to target Mainstays if war broke out.

chopper2004 21st Jul 2020 22:14

Austrian incursion
 
work up to Iraqi Freedom ....then again if the Bundesheer receivers their Typhoons at the time ...wonder if could be tracked on a numerous way..

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...trian-airspace

NutLoose 24th Jul 2020 00:18


Originally Posted by Martin the Martian (Post 10786836)
Very, very interesting article on the F-117 and the RAF in the June edition of The Aeroplane. Well worth a read.

There was, the Uk were offered them but declined

RAFEngO74to09 17th Aug 2020 01:15

At least 4 x F-117s used as Red Air on Red Flag 20-3:

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...rial-war-games

chopper2004 21st Oct 2020 17:12

Miramar visit
 
Pair of them landed at MCAS Miramar with callsigns of ‚Knight‘ and it was no emergency divert either.

https://theaviationist.com/2020/10/2...fDgLpHf5r4oxjM


RAFEngO74to09 23rd Oct 2020 13:49

Excellent video here showing 2 x F-117 departing MCAS Miramar on October 22:


RAFEngO74to09 1st Nov 2020 01:36

Now spotted at Nellis AFB too:

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....45269884a5.png

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....790c3977f0.png

sandiego89 2nd Nov 2020 13:49

Neat to see them still flying.

Didn't the 117 fleet go to a gray scheme when at Holloman and until their supposed retirement? Seems all the more recent sighting are in the black scheme (which looks better). Wonder why the switch back to black?

Ewan Whosearmy 2nd Nov 2020 16:12


Originally Posted by sandiego89 (Post 10917270)
Neat to see them still flying.

Didn't the 117 fleet go to a gray scheme when at Holloman and until their supposed retirement? Seems all the more recent sighting are in the black scheme (which looks better). Wonder why the switch back to black?

IIRC, they only painted one grey.

unmanned_droid 3rd Nov 2020 00:00

Yes the gray scheme was a test and wasn't adopted. I think there may have been more than 1 in Gray and more than 1 scheme according to something I've read on the net.

Edited to add:
Article about the 'Gray dragon' here:

https://theaviationist.com/2013/02/2...-dragon-story/

Comments further down make reference to a 'Gray Ghost' aircraft included in trials in the mid 1990s from someone apparently there.

There was also a 'desert' scheme on one F-117A.

NutLoose 3rd Nov 2020 20:11

And one with a big flag underneath.

Davef68 9th Nov 2020 14:50


Originally Posted by unmanned_droid (Post 10917570)
Y
There was also a 'desert' scheme on one F-117A.

Very like the scheme employed by a certain Middle east country

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....2aa9ca3634.jpg



unmanned_droid 9th Nov 2020 18:01


Originally Posted by Davef68 (Post 10922590)
Very like the scheme employed by a certain Middle east country

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....2aa9ca3634.jpg

Yes, almost enough to start a rumour eh....

chopper2004 13th Jan 2021 22:19

First time I saw one was Mildenhall Air Fete 96 so here are my photos..

cheers


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....10ba258b5.jpeg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5b1e86437.jpeg

chopper2004 1st Feb 2021 08:01

3 decades and fortnight ago Desert Storm kicked off with the Wobbly Goblin seine action for second time ...

Anyhow reminiscent of this the 117 has been cleared to being tanked up.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...8QItURqjKyBaQ8

cheers


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