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Mach the Knife 12th May 2011 16:28

Not an AIRPROX in the circuit, or even a break before landing. This photo was most likely taken just after take off when splitting from close formation into battle before the climb. My experience of breaks in the Lightning was "for god's sake don't waste fatigue joining the pattern, max 2G save all the g for combat" Good philosphy on an old shagged out aircraft. However only way to break an F3 was 600kts (and a little bit) 67wg, max G and buffet to 280 without climbing above 1000' and then chuck the wings forward, flaps and gear down and turn final. Happy days, don't spill the G&T now.

Farns744 12th May 2011 17:49

Ah, you mean a playtex.:ok:

Mach the Knife 12th May 2011 18:43

Yes I do. "Playtex at burner cut" not heard too often these days.

Canadian Break 12th May 2011 22:58

Ref post 93. Oy, what have I ever done to you - leave me alone!:)

frodo_monkey 12th May 2011 23:04


Mach the Knife Not an AIRPROX in the circuit, or even a break before landing. This photo was most likely taken just after take off when splitting from close formation into battle before the climb. My experience of breaks in the Lightning was "for god's sake don't waste fatigue joining the pattern, max 2G save all the g for combat" Good philosphy on an old shagged out aircraft. However only way to break an F3 was 600kts (and a little bit) 67wg, max G and buffet to 280 without climbing above 1000' and then chuck the wings forward, flaps and gear down and turn final. Happy days, don't spill the G&T now.
You're Ricko surely!!

Flyer517 13th May 2011 03:38

Thanks Arm..
 
Well explained. Cheers.

Flyer

Arm out the window 13th May 2011 07:41

Too easy mate, happy to help.

Lightning Mate 13th May 2011 11:44

Gentlemen, the break. :)

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/u...ightning-1.jpg

Wander00 13th May 2011 13:02

LM - was that at the last Binbrook Open Day?

Neptunus Rex 13th May 2011 13:31

Blimey! A WIWOL experiencing ectoplasm.

Lightning Mate 13th May 2011 15:13


Blimey! A WIWOL experiencing ectoplasm.
If you remember mate, I got lots of that at Linton as well.

Bugger - wrong word..........:E


LM - was that at the last Binbrook Open Day?
Yes, I think it was.

BEagle 13th May 2011 15:42

Absolutely TOP photo, LM!

That's the way things were done when once had an air force.....:\

kick the tires 13th May 2011 15:50


What was the purpose of their punchy run and break?
They are great fun to do!

Neptunus Rex 13th May 2011 17:24


If you remember mate, I got lots of that at Linton as well.
Yes mate, I recall very well. Those languid summer months - was it the humidity, or that we were still in our early thirties?

Wander00 13th May 2011 17:38

LM - great day but as I recall VERY wet. Came up from Brampton for the day 5 years after I left Binbrook on posting. I have a very similar photo buried somewhere. Thanks for the "nostalge".

Neptunus Rex 13th May 2011 18:38


Came up from Brampton for the day 5 years after I left Binbrook on posting
Now that is one impressive "Run and Break." Shame it was only one day.

You must have really dropped a b**llock to get 5 years as a desk officer at Brampton!

Wander00 13th May 2011 19:20

Did a short tour at Neatishead as OC Admin Sqn, 4 months opening Death Star, and then Command Accounts - had a deal with the Boss - I had the budgie on my jumper so I always did flying stations - even got to fly in the Harvard, so not all bad! Binbrook 80-82 was, as the Chinese say, "interesting".


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