Easily done once all the cans became a uniform shape/colour and only the Ris were colour banded for use.

WHAT effin eejit thought they'd save a few££ with that special trick.:ugh::ugh:

Probably the same effin eejit that believed our highly trained technicians could read the label on the tin.

Technicians get tired, especially when said accountants mean there are less of them with the same workload,i.e. efficiency savings. But the cleanout of the cooling system comes off someone else's budget,so the guy who made all the cans the same still gets promoted. :ugh:
Of course,it's not really the accountants (have to say that, I have rellies who are accountants),it's the people who are supposed to manage the accountants. If the MoD had an eyetest, they'd be looking out through glass balls. Maybe they already are looking into glass balls,as I can't see where else they are getting their force requirement predictions from (and nor can CAS it seems).

Oil can in a line locker, that is "in use". Paper label stuck on.

Nope not getting it are you mak.

17 years line ops [amongst others] this screamed **** up central to all at the front end whose thoughts were dismissed in a similar manner to your reply.

Even with the best will in the world the "gotcha" is there.

Also ties in nicely with a number of threads on here re-airworthiness and skewed [and I'm being polite here] thinking from the top......:ouch:

Why didn't he just lean out and give it a squirt from the water filled "Fairy" bottle rolling around on the floor? Kept me going one winter in the old Capri, (Till the squeezy bottle froze as well. And yes, I did eventually get around to fixing the heater............ the following Summer)!

Jeez Pilots - its not Rocket science, is it? :p

Tsk. Every five year old knows the new shape fairy bottles have no squirt power.

In my early days as a liney on these things (late 80’s) we were told and shown on our Flight Servicing Course at Coningsby how to top-up the water bottles IAW the flight servicing schedule, however on reaching the squadron this had “stopped” (unofficially as far as I can remember) because the bottles would leak wash fluid over the equipment below it. (Electrics and water…you get the picture?) it became the “accepted norm” by ground crew and aircrew alike. However the canopies and front were polished spotless after the BF.

Until one, day some years on, when a pilot needed to clean the screen in flight and couldn’t due to this ground practice. Once down he raised a report which ended in disciplinary action being taken against the liney and supervisor whose task it was to replenish the bottle. It also saw bottles being replenished at record rate (as there were gallons of washer fluid stacking up in POL) and a number of unservicabilities due to the leaking of washer fluid over adjacent equipment.

I haven’t worked a Tornado since the late 90’s but I do remember them to be a pain to rectify due to limited access. I wander if this old fault versus practice is making a return? And if so critical then why not fix (in the technical sence) it so operational capabilities are not compromise through aircraft engineering practices?

On one aircraft the wash was pure methanol, 96 pints of the stuff. Tried to use it one, all it did was spread dirty liquid over everything.

Another time the tank leaked and the aircraft guard became drunk from the fumes.

Why would you need to clean the windows in the back? Navigators aren't allowed in the front seats, they failed the Pilot aptitude tests.

Actually, when I went through nav school about 80% of the nav students were chopped pilots - so most of them DIDN'T FAIL THE PILOT APTITUDE TESTS........ :=:=:=:=

They just failed pilot training....

Quite a number of navs have gone on to be front seaters, and the rest had quite the same level of SA as the monkey in the front. I was quite happy to drive them around.
Of course almost all could actually do a bit of pole work. I remember we used to give them an impromptu convex before they got a job in the desert, in case their Arab driver decided "allah has control".

Did the good ole Canopy Cloth go out with the Lightning?

Anyhow, in my day it was a matter of our own self esteem and all-round diligence to ensure canopies and windscreens were clean (even when our turnarounds were usually in single digit minutes). Don't remember any wash bottle thingies in those days.

How to "see" out dirty windows!!
 

It looks as though it won't matter if the windscreen goes uncleaned:

"BAE Systems Responds to An Urgent Operational Requirement For Frontline UK Tornados"

BAE Systems Responds To An Urgent Operational Requirement For Frontline - BAE Systems

Wow!

This has definately got to be a leading contender for the

"Pprune dullest thread" competition.

or shiney, sparkliest thread.


;)

Can I interest the pilot in the new RAF "inflight" windscreen wash service.

http://www.pprune.org/military-aircr...s-typhoon.html

Don't bet on it, competition in that area is pretty keen. I recall the thread regarding lance corporal RAF types...

It's just an attempt to polish up the forum.

Actually this thread ranks way down the list when compared to this one.

http://www.pprune.org/military-aircr...g-credits.html

Somebody trying to make ELC's sound interesting and funny. Dull or what.

Wouldn't have needed ELCs if they had worked harder at skule :\