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glad rag 7th Nov 2010 19:24

Just got to look how much lip service they give to the EU to know this is going to end in tears....

Siggie 7th Nov 2010 20:49

Never fly over France with your bomb bay closed, you never know, they may change the ROEs and you wouldn't want to miss your chance.

LeCrazyFrog 4th Dec 2010 08:53

good ol' banter again
 
Funny to see how any chat about France ends up with white flag techniques and all the bladibla... :ugh:

An this just because you can't get over the fact that Britannia doesn't rule anything anymore, that at least there are some clearvisionng people that command you that know the only choice is to share the misery with the frogs and are fed up to be the "special friend's poodle" (F35s anyone?)

And if you want to get historic, had you lost that little brawl off the coast of Portugal 200 years ago, now you would be speaking a nice language, eating delicious food and wine enjoying the company of nice looking girls....:E

lederhosen 4th Dec 2010 09:14

ow meni wars la belle France she azz wun rissantli wizzout elp ov perfidious rosbifs eh? u tel me zat monsieur froggy!

Jackonicko 4th Dec 2010 12:18


The last war with the French was nearly two hundred years ago.
Apart from the minor unpleasantness in North Africa with the Vichy forces, and Oran, etc.


Gunbus, whilst the last apology of a government might have screwed us, its this apology of a government that has sold us out, without asking us or telling us, even the day before, let alone when we had an opportunity to evaluate and vote on it at the election!

If it was Liebour or the Limp Dims doing this, I wouldn't have been overly surprised, but the CONservatives? I bet 90% of the Tory party wouldn't have voted for that one...
True that it is this Government doing the selling out, but I'm astonished that anyone should be surprised.

The Tories have always talked the talk on defence while swinging the axe most savagely. Frontline First and Options were far more swingeing than Blair's SDR, and this little graph from the Economist (and repeated by the Daily Telegraph) tells an interesting story on Defence Spending, if you look carefully at what happened in Labour's time in office, compared to what was happening before.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3395/...9ebe206a_o.jpg

FantomZorbin 4th Dec 2010 12:59

With respect Jackonicko, the graph is slightly skewed by the funding of a war.

LeCrazyFrog 4th Dec 2010 13:04

Ohlala! zut alors
 

ow meni wars la belle France she azz wun rissantli wizzout elp ov perfidious rosbifs eh? u tel me zat monsieur froggy!
:D See?

Still not answering my point...:ugh:

Jackonicko 4th Dec 2010 13:24

Fantom, costs of operations not included.

Just look at the force structure reductions under Options and Frontline First, and the much lighter pruning under SDR.

It may not be comfortable, especially for those of us who actually vote Conservative, for whatever reason, but when it comes to Defence, they really are not our friends!

FantomZorbin 4th Dec 2010 13:59

Jackonicko
I stand corrected:O

I agree with you regarding the track record of Labour vs Tories. It's been thus for at least the last 40yrs at least as far as my pay chit was concerned!

lederhosen 5th Dec 2010 19:05

Actually grenouille folle old chap I am afraid I am struggling to identify which point you mean. By my counting you make at least three points and your grammar and punctuation do not make it clear that you are looking for an answer. For what it is worth I think we can agree that the UK and France need to work together as indeed they have done for most of the last hundred years.


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