Request for FJ wheels up pics
 

I have been teaching airmanship at my son's Air Cadet unit about airfields and ATC during which I was telling them how useful the runway caravan is, however I can not seem to find any pics to show what happened during the times when the bean counters got rid of the caravans for a while. Do any of you good chaps have any pictures I could use?

At the end of my lesson during 'Any Questions?' my own son asked me 'Have you ever been helped by the runway controller?' No pocket money for him this week although I do wonder where he got his whit and repartee from!

Thank you in anticipation,
MM

Not a wheels up but see Air Clues page 37.

http://www.raf.mod.uk/rafcms/mediafi...C89A771CD3.pdf

PM Trim Stab - he takes a very keen interest in FJ "no wheels" landings (or attempted landings). He must have a few photos and/or stories he could let you have:E;):ok:

Check your messages.

which is what forget's link was refering to. More to runway caravan duties to checking gear is down ....

But then you probably didn't bother to read the link :E

Bit like this? Not the greatest place to forget to put it down LOL

YouTube - Airshow crash

NUTLOOSE.
He didn't forget to put it down. He was taking off, and retracted the wheels when just off the ground, and then sank back onto the runway. Slid for well over half a mile, I believe. I am sure that I have seen another video of the whole incident,including it getting airborne, but not such good quality. Pretty sure it's the same mishap.

This is a well-known one:

Tornado Late Overshoot

STH

Edited to correct ac type muppetry.

Not RAF but these might do:

http://www.strategypage.com/gallery/...up-landing.jpg

http://www.targetlock.org.uk/b-1/b1_recovery_0.jpg

JEM60,

I think that you are mixing up two incidents? The Russian Knights Su-27 was a landing.

The following MiG-29 was a take-off.

YouTube - Mig 29 aircraft accident

TJ

If you google the RAAF F111 wheels up landing some great pics to be seen!

Why are you teaching that relying on the runway caravan to remind pilots to put the gear down is "good airmanship"?

Better to teach them that they should be responsible for putting the gear down themselves.

The video is better:ok:

http://posterous.com/getfile/files.p...scaled.500.jpg


http://www.alexisparkinn.com/Photoga...OoopsinCID.jpg

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TEEJ.
Many thanks. I had a feeling after I posted that it was a Mig 29. Memory playing tricks again.:uhoh:

Surely Miles Magister is looking for examples where shaving the asphalt was avoidable rather than those resulting from U/C failure? Having said that, Control Caravans have been useful for identifying the nature of a malfunction (thus giving the driver the best clues to exercising good airmanship).

Handy place for a cuppa while waiting to cross the runway is yer caravan. Then some jobsworth fitted a radio in the Landie...:(

GBZ

So true, but what the heck -----

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...ne/wheels2.jpg

Why not just use the control tower?

Hmm, must have snuck in when Two-Guns Dave* (RW Controller) was looking for the sugar, Jinda.

Interesting markings, 8 or 208 plus 43? Didn't know 43 went S of Tangmere.

(Pic is 5 August 1968 @ Khormaksar for the digiyoofs).

* He was at Akrotiri, once bounced a red off a Lightning as it was lining up, bit enthusiastic was Dave.