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MG 2nd Jun 2010 04:11

It really looks good. Top(ish) marks, but......
Along with the camouflage appearing to be the wrong way round, the red centre of the roundel is way too small. It is obvious even before put alongside the Spitfire.
Shame the wx is getting warm again, you don't half sweat in these anoraks in these temperatures!

Buster Hyman 2nd Jun 2010 06:06

Ahh, but the red has to be small so that we don't mistake them for Zero's in the tropics...

BEagle 2nd Jun 2010 08:18

'Wrong way' camouflage seems to be a modern thing. The Hunter and (a few) Lightnings had camouflage in the same direction as the Spitfire and Hurricane, but our Hawks at Chivenor (:ok:) had camouflage in the same direction as those 'Spitanos'.....

Must get a new stepladder....:rolleyes:

Saint Jack 2nd Jun 2010 08:40

OK, I'll take the bait, how exactly does one apply camouflage 'the wrong way'? Answers with diagrams/pictures please. Yes, i agree that the red center of the roundal is too small.

NutLoose 2nd Jun 2010 16:07

Ok I'll rise to that one, spotter mode on........ look at the Spit and the Tucano, the spit is the opposite to the Tucano's scheme.......


OK Pass out the Humble Pie and I will eat it, it appears they have done the scheme to this Genuine Supermarine Drawing.... well, all bar the roundels.

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/f...awingsmall.jpg

BEagle 2nd Jun 2010 16:26


OK, I'll take the bait, how exactly does one apply camouflage 'the wrong way'?
Left-handed painter with right-handed brush?

OK, OK, I'll..........

Alber Ratman 2nd Jun 2010 19:23

I really don't know who painted it but some stations P&F sections had people who knew what they were doing.. And some didn't.. This was before the trade was decimated 3 years ago, but civvy aircraft painters tend to be similar (with what I've seen). Painters and Dopers was never only refering to the fabric tensioner was it!!:E

AndyBuckley 3rd Jun 2010 10:17

Very Spotterish
 
Top side camouflage was sprayed on using pre-cut rubberised mats so there were variations on a theme.

Scheme A (mats on as per Tucano)
Scheme B (flip the mats over, result as per Spitfire)
Scheme C (as per A but colours transposed)
Scheme D (as per B but colours transposed)

There was apparently a 'cunning plan' for aircraft with serials ending in an odd number to be in Scheme A, and those with even serials to be in Scheme B. This appears to have been a short lived 'cunning plan'..!! Scheme C & D were probably just the paint shop misreading the official drawings; the hatched area in the drawings was meant to represent the lighter colour but appears to have been sprayed in the darker colour.

The roundels are correct for Battle of Britain markings; the later style roundel with the thin yellow and white rings wasn't introduced till mid 1942.

I shall now retire to my darkened cave and wait for the medications to kick in whilst contemplate buying yet another monster lens with a lens cap the size of a dustbin lid..!!

Rgds

TEEEJ 3rd Jun 2010 13:20

AndyBuckley wrote


The roundels are correct for Battle of Britain markings; the later style roundel with the thin yellow and white rings wasn't introduced till mid 1942.
The Spitfire pictured in formation with the Tucanos is wearing Battle of Britain markings.

Battle of Britain Memorial Flight - Spitfire P7350 (Mk IIa)

Battle of Britain Memorial Flight - 92 Squadron - Geoffrey Wellum

You can see the correct roundel ratios on the Global Aviation Resource article.

Global Aviation Resource

A very early roundel modification produced the following strange result, but it still differs considerably from the roundel on the camo Tucanos. It appears that something has gone wrong with the roundel ratios on the camo Tucanos.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...ppy35/Tuck.jpg

From following forum.

Robert Stanford Tuck Spitfire Mk V

You can see the roundel ratio on QJ-F at the following link

http://www.techmod.pl/techmod/images/48000/48001-02.jpg

TJ

hurn 3rd Jun 2010 13:28

Have to agree that the scheme really does suit the Tucano.
Just a shame their engines don't sound anywhere near as good as a Merlin though. :{

TEEEJ 3rd Jun 2010 13:39

Some further examples of 66 and 92 Squadron Spitfires.

LZ-X of 66 Squadron

RAF - Battle of Britain No.66 Squadron

LZ-F of 66 Squadron

Clavework Graphics

QJ-S of 92 Squadron

http://www.clavework-graphics.co.uk/...1_GB_92Sqn.png

QJ-D of 92 Squadron

http://www.rafweb.org/Markings/92Sqn6.jpg

TJ


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