Merseyside UAV grounded by Campaign Against Aviation
 

'Unlicensed' UAV grounded

Thought the use of this UAV was too good to be true...

"Your drone, is it sir? May I see your licence and insurance?"

:suspect:

You may recall (or you may not!) that about 25 years ago: when police aviation was in its infancy; Devon & Cornwall were successfully prosecuted in connection with their force helicopter. Subsequent to that incident the regulations regarding police employment of aviation assets was put on a proper footing.

Now we all know that Liverpool is a war zone, but in this case it's the CAA that issue the RoE:}

YS

If the Merseyside muppets didn't have the common gumption to read the ANO then they weren't fit to be in charge of a UAV over a congested area such as Liverpuddle.

OK Calm down, calm down.

Giz a job. I can do that.

It was the mini gun that stopped them really, neighbours complained about the noise and the mess. Don't have very good street cleaning in some areas. :E:E

They'll have to go back to breaking into Woodvale and vandalising helicopters like the good old days.

Low flier. Your point is not quite correct. When they set the operation up it wasn't illegal according to the ANO. It would be more accurate to say they didn't keep abreast of the changes to the ANO.

Why the xxxx are we condoning the use of UAV's to monitor OUR population?

glad rag

Why the hell not? If you have nothing to hide then you won't be that bothered. It's a bit like the ID card debate; it doesn't clamp down on my freedom, in fact it makes things safer and catches some of the scroats/chavs that seem to be getting a tighter grip on this country.

I say, if it makes the country a safer place (as I believe it will), saves money (far cheaper than a cholly-whopper) and takes away the liberty of those that choose to break the law, then bring it on :ok:

LJ

glad rag
I didn't know we were condoning it. Although we do have to accept that under the current regime, we do have more CCTV than anyone else, are filmed by the police in the streets, are filmed in our cars by speed and ANPR cameras, can have our houses raided by the police without a magistrates warrant, we even have local authorities who feel a need to weight our dustbins (as well as look through them) so they can fine us if we place inappropriate waste in them etc etc.
We also seem to have accepted (as a country, but God knows why) that nothing we do will make any difference to anything our elected leaders decide to do.

Sorry for ranty thread drift:(

Barny, yes indeed even here in Perthshire, we have a council "rapid reaction" team of 3 wifies who arrive in their council car to back up the binmen when the proles dare to complain about the wheely bin lid being 5mm up and thus classed as a hazard!! Yours for £300 a month!

As for those idiots who spout the "nothing to hide" mantra, well they'll find out JUST what it feels like sooner or later.

Papiere bitte-----it's already here by the back door.:ugh:

Here Leon, you may enjoy the from 03:44 onwards....

YouTube - New German UAV -- microdrone

Rumour has it that the Merseyside UAV is more wetted than grounded !!!:ok:

For once I actually find myself applauding the CAA and find myself rather bemused by some of the comment on this thread.

In recent years we have seen several mid air collisions involving fast jets and light aircraft at low level resulting in fatalities. Tornado/C152 Gamston, Tornado/Bell 206 North West, Jaguar/Cessna Wales. With all of these see and avoid has been the responsibility of all pilots.

How does a drone see and avoid? The operator will be looking at the ground and will have no visibility of what is happening in the air around the drone. The drone is also a small object and sight by a fast jet crew would be very late.

I wonder what will be said if a fast jet on a training run gets taken out by a drone?

The CAA are totally correct in their action taken to protect pilots military and civilian.

My comments above still stand, but I have long wanted almost every British foot patrol to have one of these for a long time.
A small UAV like this, with say a 500-600m range, and operated by I-phone (like the ones in the U.S.) could be real battle winners.
If these, and the new GMG's were combined, then just about every irrigation ditch or wall would be within easy reach:).

How many fast jets do you get over liverpool at 250 feet?

Do The CAA confiscate & crush any flying things that don't have licences?

That would be a bit poetic:=

Cliver

Depends how many get hot wired ! but if they are that low keep an eye on the wheels !!

It's not a UAV, its now a UUV......... (see bears post ;))