Invasion of Yemen
Does anyone know the timetable for our forthcoming invasion of Yemen ?
After all if the principles and arguments behind our pouring blood and money in to the toilet bowl of Afghanistan hold true, surely Yemen has to be next on the list.... And then Somalia (again) and the Southern Philippines and wherever else AQ will set up their tents once we have focused our efforts on the last country they operated from....:ugh: |
Should be announced immediately after the next defence budget cut...
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But you can take comfort from the fact that our national commitment has already been pledged to the leader of some other foreign power - and it will be almost presented to Parliament at some point for rubber stamping.:eek:
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Weren't we in Yemen sometime before?
How did that work out? |
But whose principles & arguments are you referring to? And, are they in power now?
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According to this Thunderer article from last week http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6981556.ece some of the 'victors' want the Empire back
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Buster..
I think you will find that the decision makers on our side are still in power....for now at least. Do you think "call me dave" will be any different ? :E |
Well, according to an article in today's DT, the next Defence Policy will be less interventionalist. David Cameron to use British troops at home, not abroad
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surely Yemen has to be next on the list.... |
A Conservative government would be more wary of sending British troops abroad than Labour, make more use of the Armed Forces for security and emergency response work at home, David Cameron has said. |
....."What on earth is he thinking of? ".....
Scrapping most of the RN? |
Has anyone noticed that the UK's ability to project "Global Power" is a bit diminished these days?
As part of a PROPERLY established coalition [does anyone remember that NATO thing?] the UK can play a useful part ... within it's capabilities. Frankly, UK Mil plc has been utterly burned out by the current Govt's involvements, and a period of "R&R" and intellectual focus on "WTF" wouldn't go amiss. IMO, E&OE, of course. |
Sounds like we're about to become less of an armed force and more of a militia or carabinieri. I can see the Argentinians dusting their Falklands plans off as we speak whilst the Russian and Chinese will be chuckling away at the thought that a once great country has been knobbled by its own politicians and accountants.
The current generation of politicians - of all hues - have done more damage to the Forces than the Nazis ever managed to do. At least back then we knew what we were fighting for, morale wasn't such an issue and the country was united. |
Well, if I were young again, I certainly wouldn't consider exposing myself to the possibility of a chauffered drive through Wootton Bassett on behalf of this government.
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" What on earth is he thinking of?"
Erm, possibly the rather distinct possibility of what's termed "civil unrest" and not just from the usual collection of "renta fruitloop / any cause will do" bonzo's. In the not too distant future, policies current and future are sort of going to come home with a vengeance on all of us in the UK.....and even the most moderate are going to be less than impressed with whoever happens to be I/c UK at the time.......not something we generally do as a nation I agree and frankly I hope it doesn't happen.....but all the portents are there and in place and lets face it, excluding the :mad: bankers, just about everybody else in the UK in every sector and area of employment is in for a nasty few years in financial terms. |
May I suggest that the spearhead BG for any future ops is the Royal Westminster Regt, formed of co-opted MP's on a reservist basis. Might focus the mind.
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Weren't we in Yemen sometime before? ...and India and Pakistan too (I think) |
Somalia
A while ago I suggested that the victims of the ' Black Hawk Down ' incident ( Please DO read the book, ignore the film ) would have rather liked Harrier support from offshore, and was jumped on as calling for a ' war crime ' !
As for Yemen, seems a matter of when not if, after all a few chaps with just rifles, RPG's and some explosives can hardly hassle a power like the UK can they ? As for the Westminster Regiment, oh how soundly is that deserved ( all parties ) - they claim for moats & duck houses & happily send young people off leaving their families in sh!!tty accomodation to say the least; at least our soldiers and airmen etc should be able to get on with their jobs without worrying how their families are in Blighty ? How does the equivalent U.S. Family accomodation compare, is it to the same standard where civilians would / could call in social services if civvies in rented such places ? |
@ Double Zero ... from what I recall, and unless its changed drastically, a lot of US "Base Housing" isn't great ;) And a bunch of UK Mil housing trying to be sold of to the private sector wasn't deemed for for occupation either.
Infrastructure isn't "sexy money". From the Seco and black wooden hut generation |
Nice thread title rmac - made me click!
I read the Cameron article in the DT and thought it had a couple of good ideas the homeland defence idea and the use of the DFID budget being the 2. However, I am a little alarmed that the review was led by an ex diplomat with no military experience. All in all looks like an excuse for CUTS!!! Melchett01 please stand for election - I would vote for you, especially if you put MGD in charge of the press gang. |
Invasion of Yemen? No chance
Prior tasking requires depletion of largest Al-Qaeda assets outside of Saudi, and probably largest global risk. There are high level assets with planning capabilities, high recruitment levels, replen facilities & funding and excellent comms.
This shall require invasion of UK to regain control. Yemen follows that. |
8-15,
Thanks for the vote of confidence. However, I suspect that I would never get elected. My manifesto would be fairly thin and would generally be based around common sense, the notion of the first priority of govt is security of the nation (whether that be military, financial, strategic infrastructure) and knocking this god-awful 'me me me/celebrity cult/famous for being famous / equality= lowest common denominator' attitude out of the country we have let ourselves develop. Unfortunately the famous for being famous brigade would never stand for it. Best I just go back to the desert where I belong. |
This appeared today on a mailing list of select former RAF people that I subscribe to:
Post-Coup Proclamation. Memo to all Citizens. From: ******* - Temporary Acting Interim Lord Protector (Warts and all) Subject: Popular Front for the Return of British Values. ____________________________________________________ Now that the lying, self serving, mealy mouthed politicians have been ejected it is necessary that certain rules and regulations be established in respect of the population at large and the world in general. This proclamation seeks to set out the manner by which this country will be governed in the popular absence of an elected parliament. In order to protect the best interests of this country and it's population a number of difficult but vital decisions have been forced upon us. Primarily, we have shrugged off the many years of Colonialism and Empire and have come to accept that our place in the world, though important, is no longer of prime importance. Gone are the days when Great Britain ruled the waves, of Gunboat Diplomacy and the Raj. The world has changed and we must change with it whilst protecting our vital interests. Consequently, the following directives have been issued and will be enacted over the coming weeks:
Remember, Big Brother is Watching You! |
8-15fromodium
Whats wrong with ex-diplomats ? maybe an RN Commodore ex F4 jockey should have a go. I think one made an excellent job of re-organising the Defence Medical Services. I dont remember anybody criticising him too much when it was all over !!!:D Seriously, you can't keep standing forces of any size back in the UK.(Where else can they go now?) There is only so much polishing of a/c, tanks and ships that can be done before the beanies notice. Therefore its cuts, as usual.:sad: |
...the Russian and Chinese will be chuckling away at the thought that a once great country has been knobbled by its own politicians and accountants. ;):E |
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Does anyone know the timetable for our forthcoming invasion of Yemen ? |
It gets me with this Government. I came out of the RAF over 20 years ago and it is sad to see not only the RAF's decline but the decline of all our forces.We are getting to the state that we were in just before WW2.But the thing that especially gets my goat is the fact that the MOD would rather pay millions on other accommodation for families when there are nearly 8,000 houses empty on various bases.A guy in the front line shouldn't have to worry about what state his house is in back home and the problems his Mrs. is having with it.They deserve better.
Our "Government" has badly let you guys and girls down on all fronts both overseas with lack of kit and back home in the place you live. There is a mass of unemployed builders in this country with all the skills because various companies have gone bump.Why can't they be redeployed with a little extra on their benefits to put these things right and MOD or whoever controls housing these days stump up the costs for materials.There is a definate need for them and a job for them to do. A war isn't just fought in the front line.It depends on a whole line of things including supply,logistics and right down to the front doot of the MQ and sometimes that front door is the most important thing of all. I was looking at other comments about troops being held back by David Cameron. This great country of our's is at a tipping point due to various political decisions.At some point the crap is going to hit the fan because of certain religious groups trying to assert some kind of power upon us,debt,unemployment,the list goes on and it may well go down the road to civil unrest. Would he be prepared to use these troops on our streets under the Civil Contingencies Act 2004 to quell any distubances?? Would our troops if so ordered fire on our population eventhough the order is politically legal,but not morally legal or would they stay in barracks,etc. as they have been screwed over as much if not more than us civvies.I ask this question as the Police have been issued 10,000+ Tasers and the Civil Contingencies Act takes away any rights of the individual including the right to a lawyer.Basically becoming a state under Martial Law (to be reviewed in Parliament every 28 days) with no legal recourse for the accused.I don't want this to happen in my country and the Government invoke Martial Law as the population go in uproar and have their voice against policies that have made us almost a 3rd World nation. Were Bankers are more important than everyone else,where we give away money we haven't got in some cases to places like India that can afford both a Nuclear and Space program of their own,yet our own electricity suppy is dwindling because the Government knew our Fossil fuel and some Nuclear power plants were due for replacement years ago and did nothing,now it is almost crunch time when foreign companies have to either build or run our power supplies,so in theory could cut them at any time of their choosing such as the Russian Gas supply through Europe and what they have done inthe past to Ukraine so we have to go to the Norwegians.We are not in charge of our own destiny as a country anymore which is wrong. It has been farmed out to the lowest foreign bidder who reap the profits. It is about time sense took hold in this country and the Lion roared again,instead of being the tame puppy of other nations. I was looking at the post by ian16th and I must admit it does have it's merits |
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