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MrBernoulli 20th Aug 2009 09:42

RAF Chinook airframe destroyed - Helmand Province
 
BBC TV news have just announced (10:35 UK time) that an RAF Chinook made an emergency landing in Helmand province last night (19/29 Aug 2009) due to a (possible?) engine fire. Crew and pax recovered by another helicopter and the Chinook was then destroyed by coalition airstrikes.

Great that there appears to be no associated injuries, but what a shame we have lost such a valuable lifting asset, when the lack of rotary airframes in theatre seems to be so critical! :(

Edit: Story now up on BBC News site:
BBC NEWS | UK | Crew unhurt in Chinook emergency

Rotary Girl 20th Aug 2009 10:50

The BBC quote:

The Ministry of Defence said that in the short term other UK aircraft in the region, and those operated by Nato partners, would be able to cover the "helicopter lift requirement".
"In the medium term, the UK's joint helicopter command is already planning the replacement of this airframe," it said.

Thats all right then - we have spare heavy lift kicking around apparently:ugh:

Glad to hear all on board were recovered safely.

The Helpful Stacker 20th Aug 2009 10:51

Good news that the crew are ok but a shame to lose such a valuable asset.


"In the medium term, the UK's joint helicopter command is already planning the replacement of this airframe," it said.
Replacement as in buy another to replace or replacement as in send another one from the already small pool from the UK to Afghanistan? I've a feeling its the latter.:{

MostlyHarmless 20th Aug 2009 10:54

Sad when the loss of one frame is going to have such a dramatic impact on our ops :suspect:

JAR FCL 20th Aug 2009 10:56

Fantastic news about the crew. Lets hope it isnt Bravo November.

Thaihawk 20th Aug 2009 11:18

This airframe will NEVER be replaced under Labour.

Remember the 5 J model Hercules the MOD were' urgently' procuring earlier this year.As far as I am aware,this idea has sunk without trace.

Brown considers all money spent on defence a waste which could be given to Africa as aid.

Gainesy 20th Aug 2009 11:27

A carefully worded thread title Mr Bernoulli.:ok:

Teetering 20th Aug 2009 11:51

Heavy Lift
 
Rotary Girl - the mighty Chinook is still not heavy lift - only medium. We dont have any rotary heavy lift assets. Brilliant to hear no injuries.

MrBernoulli 20th Aug 2009 12:23

Gainsey,

Not entirely sure what you mean there - all I was trying to convey in the title was some accuracy. Some threads here have misleading or meaningless titles.:)

The Helpful Stacker 20th Aug 2009 12:26

I think he was praising you MrB.

Often thread titles can be a little blunt ('Chinook destroyed' for instance) and give the appearance that their may be fatalities involved.

Rotary Girl 20th Aug 2009 12:29

Teetering

the mighty Chinook is still not heavy lift - only medium
Why then was the Chinook Mk3 IPT known (in the days of DPA) as FHL - Future Heavy Lift?
Is your definition of 'Heavy' greater than 24.5?

Gainesy 20th Aug 2009 12:32

Mr B,
As Stacker infers, I meant exactly what I said, you carefully selected words so as not to alarm folk. Hence the :ok:

Teetering 20th Aug 2009 12:36

Lift
 
Can't quite remember the figures - but it was an ex Odiham Stn Cdr that picked me up on the same point a couple of years ago. Perhaps the definitions have changed so we now magically now have heavy lift helicopters - would not surprise me.

Roadster280 20th Aug 2009 14:31

MSH
 
It's been a while, but when I was stood under the things hooking, the following were classed as Medium Support Helicopter:

Wessex - Presumably supplanted by Merlin 3
SK(4)
Puma
Chinook

Only the CH-53 was classed as Heavy.

cornish-stormrider 20th Aug 2009 15:07

What about the skycrane? Is that very b4st4rd heavy lift??

Still glad all made it out ok. Metal and rubber - we can buy another (but only after the nostril miner is gone)

taxydual 20th Aug 2009 15:30

Daily Telegraph report 'military sources' confirming 'shot down'.

RAF Chinook helicopter shot down in Afghanistan in Taliban election 'spectacular' - Telegraph

knocker88 20th Aug 2009 15:47

I hope the Crew are fine - I bet it was brown trousers time!
Anyway - I'm sure our NATO friends will now step up and send more helicopters out? Failing that, MOD will be buying some more Chinooks with the help from Darling and Ainsworth!!

Good job the cupboard isn't empty at ODI!!! Oh wait.......

rolandpull 20th Aug 2009 17:08

Just a question. Why is the RAF webmaster so slow in putting up info on this subject following official release by the MoD press 'guru'? This news is in the public domain after all.

The Helpful Stacker 20th Aug 2009 17:17


It's been a while, but when I was stood under the things hooking, the following were classed as Medium Support Helicopter:

Wessex - Presumably supplanted by Merlin 3
SK(4)
Puma
Chinook

Only the CH-53 was classed as Heavy.
Indeed, I was taught the same many, many years ago when I was a sprog beginning my journey with those fine men with big hoses on TSW.

knocker88 20th Aug 2009 17:36

Webmaster was slow because it wasn't a Typhoon story


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