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Riskman 4th May 2012 22:57


The photograph was taken by a colleague and sent to the air force for comment.
Said colleague needs to stay out of reach of those forearms:eek:

SASless 4th May 2012 23:08

Wader....if one were to take the oath at when re-enlisting...you were armed with your rifle....outdoors....and in Ranks.....would you remove your Headgear during the oath?

taxydual 5th May 2012 05:33

The late Archie Winskill (when Captain of The Queens Flight) once greeted HM Queen Elizabeth, The Queen Mother, at the bottom of the Andover airstairs, resplendent in No 1 blue uniform and suede desert boots.

Archies' feet hurt, HM commiserated saying she 'knew the feeling'.

Al R 5th May 2012 05:57


TTN: Returning his never less than immaculate salutes on passing, I was always painfully aware that his beady eye had given my appearance and bearing the once over and found me sadly wanting! No doubt Danny was grateful for the enhanced pension etc, but I always thought it was a shame when he was commissioned - the RAF had loads of Flying Officers but all too few outstanding WO's.
My contemporaries are now filling WO/SWO slots, so I can see the transformation from human being to Warrant Officer. Those type of characters develop seamlessly into the role, as people of that calibre/inclination always have done I suppose. It might be a generational thing, but looking back at that shot of Danny Gourd, its probably easier to look the part in bulled ammo boots and Serge battledress than the modern gear.

Having said that, I bumped into one of my old WOs the other month - dragged backwards through a hedge and then dressed in an old sandbag, he would still look smarter and have more presence than me. An ex QCS WO, he would (frequently) shame the Guards Division with his deportment. What was scary, was that he was always polite and hardly ever failed to say please and thank you when fixing you with a beady expression; "Please leave my office immediately and return in no later than 25 minutes dressed in your Number 1s. Thank you". Just reading that back, I still felt my bowels shift slightly.

Its good to see the uniform worn smartly in the public eye and the troops who wear it to the shops these days do so with a sense of self awareness and spring in their step that my 'generation' didn't generally have - and probably with good reason. I was at Odiham this week and felt like a crusty old fart when I caught myself actually feeling pleased to see so much smartness on display!

Tiger_mate 5th May 2012 11:35


I was at Odiham this week and felt like a crusty old fart when I caught myself actually feeling pleased to see so much smartness on display!
Though I dare say not enough 'blue' and way too much green or variations of the same, despite comments published in clothing regs by CAS a few years ago.

I like to consider myself one who wears a smart blue uniform, however the trousers are formally number ones, shoes of oxford pattern purchased at own expense, and a black silk tie purchased at own expense because the issued kit these days is rubbish quality. Being an aircrew chap one has several generations of jumper including the previous Vee neck plain weave version and it would still be in use were it not for a hole that chose a prominent position to appear; its replacement is also rubbish quality. Maintaining standards does not come cheap.

ian16th 28th Nov 2012 13:21

This has been resolved.
Pink slippers land colonel in hot water | News24

See:
Lieutenant grounded for 'borrowing' plane | News24

As a Boy Entrant at Yatesbury I don't think I would have been treated quite so leniently.

I'd probably still be on jankers.

langleybaston 28th Nov 2012 13:38

Always a pleasure to see the RAF in Stamford in uniform.

BUT the cadets of Stamford School are a heap of sh1t and never seem to wear headdress out of doors.

Need a nice friendly SWO, methinks.

How about Mr Warwick then?

Onceapilot 28th Nov 2012 15:22

Can anyone update me on the regs for wearing headress indoors these days?
Thanks.

OAP

Heathrow Harry 28th Nov 2012 15:24

unnecessary - modern roofs don't leak......

Climebear 28th Nov 2012 18:04


Originally Posted by Onceapilot (Post 7545070)
Can anyone update me on the regs for wearing headress indoors these days?
Thanks.

OAP

Officially - in AP1358 - not required to be worn indoors at place of work. Or, for males, in church.

I agree with HH's sentiment; however, given the state of the Defence estate, I wouldn't guarantee that our roofs don't leak (even the comparatively modern ones)

Rosevidney1 28th Nov 2012 18:35

This has been resolved.
Pink slippers land colonel in hot water | News24

See:
Lieutenant grounded for 'borrowing' plane | News24

As a Boy Entrant at Yatesbury I don't think I would have been treated quite so leniently.

I'd probably still be on jankers.

And Tankertrashnav will suffer a fit of the vapours when he reads this!

Tankertrashnav 28th Nov 2012 21:30

Pass me the smelling salts Jeeves :eek:

TurningFinals 29th Nov 2012 23:08

If I go to Tesco in uniform, I wear my hat until I get to the door and then remove as i walk into the building. Although the AP says -


Hats need not be worn: (QR 202)
a. When indoors at designated place of work.
So I should wear it in the store because i don't work in Tesco...?


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