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Justin Cyder-Belvoir 10th Apr 2009 14:15

Get yer crystal balls out
 
OK chaps and chapesses, when the incumbents who call themselves a Govt in the UK finally get hoicked out in June next year and Mr Cameron's mob are installed, pray what are your predictions for the military?

And ground rule#1 is - if it is wishlist you have say so; realism is the order of the day!

Gainesy 10th Apr 2009 14:21

Soames for SecState Defence, sooner or later.

Pontius Navigator 10th Apr 2009 14:45

#1 Defence Review

#2 Cancellation of CVS

#3 Cancellation of JSF

#4 More SH

#5 Cancel A400

f4aviation 10th Apr 2009 15:07

#5 will probably happen in July - #3 may precede #2, resulting in the latter.

AIDU 10th Apr 2009 17:12


if it is wishlist you have say so
I wish for blue sunny skies everyday.
I wish for world peace.:rolleyes:

camelspyyder 10th Apr 2009 17:25

AIDU's wishes
 
I too could go for wish 1 but wouldn't wish 2 put us all out of a job???
Anyway, tradition states you get 3 wishes so what else???

Could be the last? 10th Apr 2009 19:16

Wasn't Soames involved with the drug firm that made NAPS? And if my fading memory serves me, there was a conflict of interest that he didn't declare with said firm?

I stand to be corrected.

There is another individual that should be considered - MP Crispin Blunt Crispin Blunt MP | Working for you... A decent chap who served with the 13/18 Royal Hussars. Albeit, he left after GW1, but at least he would have a good understanding of what we do and has had his hands blooded.

plans123 10th Apr 2009 19:20

1. A Defence Review (forced by the Treasury)
2. A smaller Defence budget (while being told to do even more)
3. All Stations apart from Cranwell, Marham and Brize to shut (forced by the Treasury)

Sound familiar...?:}

Finnpog 10th Apr 2009 19:30

I would also propose Andrew Robathan (Blaby in Leicestershire) for a chat about defence. Former Coldstream Guard and 'Them'.

exscribbler 10th Apr 2009 21:30

Guardsman! Get a grip, FFS!

Laarbruch72 11th Apr 2009 00:17

I love the fact that here on PPRuNe, over on eGoat, and down the road at ARRSe, everyone waxes lyrical about "BLiar", "Gubment", "Broon", "Unelected", and "Utter contempt for the armed forces" etc etc ad nauseam. Thing is, Labour hasn't been treating the armed forces any worse than the Conservatives did in the previous term. Anyone remember Options for Change? Front line first? (Otherwise known as the peace dividend). When I joined the RAF in 1990 we had 100,000 personnel, we're down to 40 odd thousand now, and that's not even Labour's fault. Most of that was done by Conservatives. I think the RAF were down to about 60,000 before Labour took over.
Any future Conservative Government is most unlikely to swell the ranks of the armed forces. If you think Dave Cameron is about to order 30 C-17s, 75 B2 bombers, and another 50,000 people to man and support them, then you're living in cloud cuckoo land.

minigundiplomat 11th Apr 2009 15:54

A new CDS when Sir Jock loses his seat?

Oh, he's not a politician. I forgot, as he covers the current governments arse so well.

Wiretensioner 11th Apr 2009 16:01

Same SH1T, different party as always

BEagle 11th Apr 2009 16:05

What do I expect from DC when nuLabor are booted out? Well, this for a start:


Dear (BEagle),

Thank you for your further e-mails about the Chinook accident.

You ask whether I would take early action to reinstate the reputations of the pilots if I form the next Government.

As I mentioned in my previous letter to you, I do believe that the reputations of the two pilots deserve to be reinstated, as the Lords Select Committee recommended, and in the absence of any overwhelming argument presented to me as Prime Minister that is what I would do.

Yours sincerely,

David Cameron


Romeo Oscar Golf 11th Apr 2009 16:17

Right on Beags. I will also remind him if necessary

Pontius Navigator 11th Apr 2009 17:32

Laarbruch, for once we agree. I would suggest that Labour may well have the edge over the Tories since the war although I do think it is pretty even stevens with the present lot.

As for SecDef, Patrick Mercer?

ian16th 11th Apr 2009 18:02

1957 Defence White Paper
 
1957 Defence White Paper - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I was 5 years into my service 'career' when this happened!

Mr Sandys was a member of the Conservative Party.

navibrator 12th Apr 2009 07:21

Laarburch 72
 
No it was not. It had 92 000 in 1982 and was already on the way down.

ThemightyV 12th Apr 2009 09:25

That's a more realistic figure, I seem to remember 92500 when I joined up in 78.

petermcleland 12th Apr 2009 11:13

UNDO Brown's very first budget and restore the Pension Funds Tax Breaks to how they were before. This will allow the county's old and treasured pension schemes to recover slowly to their former viability.

In fact, if the Conservatives do NOT promiss to do this, then for the first time ever, I will NOT vote for them.


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