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NutLoose 11th Mar 2009 00:13

And you thought your landings were bad..........
 
Watch this full screen :ok: and crank up the sound, the track works well with it, the lyrics are spot on (swear word in it)........

YouTube - U-2 Dragon Lady: Landings

BarbiesBoyfriend 11th Mar 2009 00:55

That's a heck of a link.

Laughed my ass off!:ok::ok::ok::ok::ooh:

TurningFinals 11th Mar 2009 01:20

Forgive my ignorance, but why do these aircraft have cars chasing them on landing?

jimjim1 11th Mar 2009 01:39

Chase cars
 
According to various sources on the Internet the use of chase cars manned by experienced U2 pilots was routine.

Lockheed U-2 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Apparently the external pilot provided advice to the landing pilot from his external vantage point.

Double Zero 11th Mar 2009 01:46

If I was in that car, I'd be keeping well clear at 90 degrees from the approach & off into the sunset ! Good Video, and surprising to see it.

It's a wonder they have any U2 / sorry, TR1's left...

When the Harrier / P1127 was first made, with it's outrigger undercarriage, the chap who came around with the tea & buns trolley took one look and said ' that 'un'll steer like a pig, ain't gonna work' .

He was right, and it took a fair bit of development to sort it out.

Clearly, the Skunk Works may have Men In Black around the place, but they didn't have a British bun wagon consultant !

glhcarl 11th Mar 2009 04:22


Clearly, the Skunk Works may have Men In Black around the place, but they didn't have a British bun wagon consultant !
We had a Mexican with a TACO cart.

Double Zero 11th Mar 2009 05:08

A Mexican with a Taco cart ?!

Now I know how Kelly Johnson accomplished what he did - the workforce were under slave conditions !

If only someone had told us, we could have done a sort of 'Operation Manna' flight and dropped in some tea & iced buns.

- Now I see that in type I'm worried it might mean something very different in the U.S, but hell we invented the language, and I could send you a photo' of a British iced bun without fear of being locked up .

If our faithful bun trolley operator was still with us, I'd have suggested a track-race against your Mexican chum.

If he's gone now too, hopefully they're above us comparing notes.

Ewan Whosearmy 11th Mar 2009 08:32

Ladies and Gents

This video is a collection of *prospective* U-2 pilot landings.

One of the earliest parts of the interview process with the Dragonlady community is to get them to try and land the thing (they get a couple of sims first, but they don't have to acquire any in-depth systems knowledge). It's a check of their basic stick and rudder skills. If they manage to do so, they can continue through the rest of the interview stages (and may still not get picked up by the unit); if they don't, they get chopped from the process immediately.

I talked to a high time U-2 pilot about the video. He said that all but one of the a/c in the video was returned to flight within 24 hours. What a tough old jet!

Sideshow Bob 11th Mar 2009 08:36


Forgive my ignorance, but why do these aircraft have cars chasing them on landing?
Once saw a documentery about it, IIRC it came about because of the lack of visability out of the cockpit, the americans solved this by having another pilot chase the aircraft and talk the guy down. Beggers belief, but I suppose it's worked for the last 40 years!!

FCWhippingBoy 11th Mar 2009 08:57

Chase Car
 
I have actually been in that car as the driver (another pilot), one hand on the wheel, one hand holding a fist mic, accelerates hell for leather from a standing start to god knows how fast on the perry track, power slides onto the runway, and chases the aircraft down the runway probably only 10-20m behind it, calling out the heights to the pilot. 'twas a great adrenaline rush, I can tell you!

It is indeed to assist the pilot in judging height to touchdown, as he cannot see over the long nose on landing.

wz662 11th Mar 2009 09:00

looks like any normal weekend at an Air Cadet Gliding School:E

CirrusF 11th Mar 2009 09:00

They even landed them on aircraft carriers:

YouTube - Lockheed U-2R landing on aircraft carrier

Here's an example of presumably what happened to the chase cars on a carrier :8

YouTube - Top Gear - The Stig - HMS Invincible - BBC

ShyTorque 11th Mar 2009 09:14

Once called in for a refuel at RAF Wyton in 1979 or 1980. One of these aircraft had to divert in as the runway was blocked at its base (Alconbury?). The aircraft held off until a USAF chase vehicle arrived; the successful landing was as on the video.

Problem is that the wings are so long and the landing gear so short, that it takes only a very small angle of bank to drag a wing tip on the runway.

Aileron1 11th Mar 2009 09:41

i was lucky enough to witness the last two to land and take off from RAF alconbury from the airfield its self. parents worked on base and was friends with aircrew. the chase cars chase because they have to put on a set of wheels that clip onto the wings.

like a glider the wings are heavy and will topple the A/C. when taking off the wheels just fall off. this my memory from then !!!!

Navy_Adversary 11th Mar 2009 10:08

When they have the changeovers at Fairford I am not sure if the USAF have to get some cars and crew in for the chase?
I can just imagine aircrew at Mildenhall jumping in the Corvette and bombing down the A14 to Fairford.

Maybe the Dragon Lady will have to find a new changeover point if Fairford does close.

ninja-lewis 11th Mar 2009 10:10

The designers obviously never saw Thunderbirds and how to land without undercarriage! ;)

http://www.technodelic.pwp.blueyonde...s/TCTBS044.jpg

airborne_artist 11th Mar 2009 10:18

I managed far better than any of those in one of Her Majesty's whistling chicken legs at CU.

It was an engine off landing, during which I made the poor beast hop like a demented kangaroo and crushed the frangible tail stop while we careered across the grass in a tightening loop of at least 90 degrees. N*** N**** was later decorated for his actions saving people from Sir Galahad, but he'd earned a good 25% of that DFC on 705 as my beefer.

oldbeefer 11th Mar 2009 12:32

N*** N***** still going strong at Wallop!

nice castle 11th Mar 2009 12:54

Great link!

FlapJackMuncher 11th Mar 2009 13:07

Witnessed a couple of take-offs. :)
Chase cars used for that too.
The car was a top-spec Subaru Imprezza or Mitsubishi Lancer Evo, can't remember which, no flashing lights on top though. :(


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