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fred737 24th Feb 2009 15:29

Spruce,

I think the difference is that the Flight article said the Harrier detachment "could" be extended whereas the Telegraph article reported that the decision to extend it "had" been made.

OFBSLF 24th Feb 2009 18:40


1. That is very boring.
:ok: Precisely why I'm no longer a Civil Engineer.

spike_7451 24th Feb 2009 19:42

see here,


Now being carried by 9 Sqn-operated Panavia Tornado GR4 strike aircraft deployed to Al Udeid air base in Qatar, the Brimstone has recently been equipped with a dual-mode seeker (DMS) that offers a laser guidance mode in place of its original millimetre-wave radar sensor. The work has been conducted under an urgent operational requirement deal to support British and coalition activities in Iraq and Afghanistan.


In addition to having a new precision guidance mode, the weapon's 50kg (110lb) launch weight will offer a low-collateral damage option to commanders in the battle against the Taliban. The Tornado GR4 force is also soon to receive Raytheon's 226kg Paveway IV laser/GPS-guided bomb, which entered use with UK Harriers in Afghanistan late last year.
PICTURES: MBDA's Brimstone missile makes RAF combat debut

airborne_artist 24th Feb 2009 20:54


That is very boring. http://static.pprune.org/images/smilies/thumbs.gif Precisely why I'm no longer a Civil Engineer.
Many years ago I used to contribute to a column in The Thunderer. One of my best finds was in the Yellow Pages. It said under Boring - See Civil Engineers :}

Jobza Guddun 24th Feb 2009 22:07

Tourist, what do you know that the Torygraph doesn't then?

Pontius Navigator 25th Feb 2009 07:24

Jobza, the answer would appear to be Yes and to your question, Nothing.

Tourist 25th Feb 2009 08:48

Don't get me wrong, I would love it to be true, thus disproving the "bla bla bla.....carriers are never required, the RAF can deploy worldwide in hours to the ever available suitable airfields provided by host nation support whilst the carriers would take weeks to arrive............." bollocks that gets spouted on here regularly.
However, the real truth is that the Tornado is not currently able to match the capability of the Harrier at CAS, and won't be until 30 plus UORs are embodied, and even then, "with a bigger payload of bombs", I think not......:hmm:

Seldomfitforpurpose 25th Feb 2009 09:00

"Don't get me wrong, I would love it to be true, thus disproving the "bla bla bla.....carriers are never required, the RAF can deploy worldwide in hours to the ever available suitable airfields provided by host nation support whilst the carriers would take weeks to arrive............." bollocks that gets spouted on here regularly."

Or you could spin it another way and argue that as the RAF deployed various types in pretty quick time to ever available suitable airfields provided by host nation support in the current theatres that it may not be bollocks at all.....................just my humble thought :ok:

Tourist 25th Feb 2009 09:15

.......and if you had required air defence?

Seldomfitforpurpose 25th Feb 2009 09:17

Could have sworn this was a thread about the delays with regards Tornado being deployed to somehwere warm and sandy............:bored:

glad rag 25th Feb 2009 12:28

Blaaaa
 
http://www.mbda-systems.com/mbda/sit..._id=13&lang=EN

Finnpog 25th Feb 2009 16:31

".......and if you had required air defence?"

:eek:Shar?:oh::E

insty66 25th Feb 2009 16:45


However, the real truth is that the Tornado is not currently able to match the capability of the Harrier at CAS, and won't be until 30 plus UORs are embodied, and even then, "with a bigger payload of bombs", I think not......
30 UORs!!!!!!!!!:eek:

I think you're exaggerating a touch fella! Either that or a lot of people I know and work with are keeping an awful lot of work hidden from everybody else. I know who I trust.

Gladrag nice link. I don't think you can describe those a/c as being deficient in pay load

15thManofTain 28th Feb 2009 23:07

errr who gives a to$$ - one works (starts up and goes flying) and one does not..... simple as!

"Im sorry Mrs Smith, we couldn't prevent your son's death with much needed air support because we couldn't get it started"


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