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mick2088 15th Feb 2009 08:49

Did I hear him say that the carriers are delayed due to budgetary pressures and nothing to do with a need to get them in service in line with the "fighters" as was the MoD's line? Maybe it was too early in the morning, but I could of sworn he called the "fighters" Convairs. So budgetary pressures are that bad, that a squadron of 1940s/50s-era jets will be bought now. :eek:

Navaleye 15th Feb 2009 12:25

Full interview here.

Halfway through, followed by Rory Bremner which was even better.

Pheasant 15th Feb 2009 13:33

I thought Band did very well to shrug off the RAF question with "....we have got on very well for the 90 years of their existence..." meaning "....do not get too big for your boots Stirrup/Torpy/Anderson you are only a youngster in the defence game and don't forget your roots....."

Mick,


but I could of sworn he called the "fighters" Convairs.

I think he said "Combo" i.e. the CVF/JCA combo.

NURSE 15th Feb 2009 14:03

Yes considering the History of the RAF and Naval Avation 1918-1939.
And maybe he is being truthful about it being budgetry pressures not inservice date of JSF.

mick2088 15th Feb 2009 14:06

Listened to it again. Yes it was combo. I was getting worried there.

endplay 15th Feb 2009 15:06

sartorial query
 
What was the deal with the white hanky below his medal ribbons? I don't recall ever seeing that before on a uniform. I suppose it could have been the tip of a white ensign or the first of a series of signal flags but is that a correct form of dress for an Admiral?

Tourist 15th Feb 2009 15:15

He's 1SL

He can wear nothing but flip-flops, AGR and a fearnought thong soaked in lighter fluid if he wants.

















......and he would still look smarter than Torpy in his crab suit

On_Loan 15th Feb 2009 16:30

Transcript
 
Full transcript here:

BBC NEWS | Programmes | Andrew Marr Show | Navy chief 'pretty confident' of deterring pirates

circle kay 16th Feb 2009 11:58

Endplay,

In my experience, Naval Officers model themselves on one of two characters; Noel Coward in ‘In Which We Serve’ or Jack Hawkins in ‘The Cruel Sea’.

I expect that 1SL is in the first group hence the hankie in the top pocket; I bet Tourist sees himself as the Captain of ‘Compass Rose’. :)

Tourist 16th Feb 2009 13:48

No, No, more a Captain Jack Sparrow man myself.

cornish-stormrider 16th Feb 2009 14:44

Savvy??

In regards to the bunfight I think that some smartass little twerp in HMG has been given a big bonus over the latest divide an conquer......

They are only doing this to distract us all from uniting and pulling a very British coup. Note that I didn't say a "Cornish" coup, we lost. It was sad.

All those who want to march on westminster and evict the current crop of spineless self centred muppets form an orderly queue behind the navy.....( I would stand in front of them, rum - GONE, lash - GONE, that leaves.......oooh er missus)

Kick em out, they don't like it up em. Oh and I put a fiver on 1SL over that twit Torpy. bare knuckles no rules, last man standing wins.

Seldomfitforpurpose 16th Feb 2009 20:58

CS,

Having just watched an extremely scruffy looking and not very imposing 1SL explaining the latest navel cock up I'll take that fiver as I very much doubt there would be much in it :ok:

pr00ne 16th Feb 2009 23:14

devonish-windtraveller,

Yet more open incitement to treason, naughty boy.

Pheasant 17th Feb 2009 06:46


Having just watched an extremely scruffy looking and not very imposing 1SL explaining the latest navel cock up I'll take that fiver as I very much doubt there would be much in it
Who said he had to look like Dan Dare (CDS)? It is the quality of his mind and leadership that people want to follow and there are few better than the current 1SL in these areas. He should be CDS and now - at least you still serving would have someone who will stand up to the politicos, unlike the current incumbent who is a mere puppet of Gordon interested only in his diction and square-jawed image. For those in doubt compare performances recently on the Andrew Marr Show.

Seldomfitforpurpose 17th Feb 2009 07:13

Pheasant,

Watching the breakfast news they are showing a picture from one of todays appers with your hero holding his head in his hands in response to the current submarine crash, not that inspirational from my viewpoint :=

Not_a_boffin 17th Feb 2009 07:35

Probably despairing at another inane question from the cream of UK media on why the "sophisticated sonar suite" didn't pick up the other boat or why it's all vastly more dangerous all of a sudden.........

cornish-stormrider 17th Feb 2009 13:41

pr00ne - I stand by my comments, I am all for ANYONE (within reason) ousting the incumbent useless one eyed money stealing f$$kknuckle and his cabal of incompetent fraudsters.

You have to admire the Balls of the "Senior Service" or should that be senile service?? only they would play a game of chicken with the strategic detterant:E

And the next person that calls, implies or otherwise makes out I am a Devonian will have to come down to plymmuurth and I shall show them my passport (not the red biometric one neither)

Seldomfitforpurpose 17th Feb 2009 13:55

Probably despairing at another inane question from the cream of UK media on why the "sophisticated sonar suite" didn't pick up the other boat or why it's all vastly more dangerous all of a sudden.........

Thank the lord he he has nothing more complicated than the inane media to deal with in his day to day duties then :eek:

foldingwings 17th Feb 2009 14:15


Oh and I put a fiver on 1SL over that twit Torpy. bare knuckles no rules, last man standing wins.

It is the quality of his mind and leadership that people want to follow and there are few better than the current 1SL in these areas.
That'll be the 1SL who was so confident in his subject regarding the 'sub knock' that he had to read his public response almost verbatim in front of the TV camera - yep, very impressive indeed!

Get a grip, Navy!

Foldie

Seldomfitforpurpose 17th Feb 2009 15:13

Anyone remember that rather quaint old football chant along the lines of

It's all gone quiet over there............................:p


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