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cazatou 8th Feb 2009 17:50

Not sure the Council has got the message yet.

Downing Street press release states:-

"It is unacceptable that he is being stopped from having the home of his choice"

Council press release states:-

"We are optimistic of finding an appropriate solution"

They do not appear to be singing from the same hymnsheet as 10 Downing Street.

Chugalug2 8th Feb 2009 18:21

Now that the Great Leader, as opposed to the Dear Leader, has put his clunking fist behind this, I feel confident that after a full evaluation of the unique circumstances appertaining to this case...Wealdon District Council, 180, 180, GO!
Meanwhile add to their discomfort by adding your name to:
Petition to: overturn the decision by Wealden District Council to refuse planning permission for a purpose built home for Marine Joe Townsend, who lost both legs in Afghanistan. | Number10.gov.uk

thegypsy 8th Feb 2009 18:26

cazatou

you do not seem to understand planning regulations. The one eyed scottish idiot is trying to make political capital out of this and curry favour yet this government decides planning policy and there are no exceptions made for being one eyed or having no legs as far as planning is concerned. The current application as has been said is out of Wealden Council's control.

The Councillors could have over ruled the planning officer at the committee meeting but chose not to do so.


When it comes to looking after their own Councillors on the DCS planning committeee have gone against the recommendation of the planning officers.

Look at WD/2008/1809 The Cart Barn owned by a Wealden Councillor. This went to committee with a requirement for a S106 non severance planning obligation but Councillors went against the planning officers. Why??????????

BEagle 8th Feb 2009 19:13

thegypsy, in a thread concerning the welfare of a disabled Royal Marine, I consider your insulting reference to the PM's disability to be very much out of order.

I am by no means a supporter of Brown, but to make mock of his personal disability is utterly unacceptable, to my mind. As was Jeremy Clarkson's; for someone who does so much for Help for Heroes, his comment was outrageous. But he has at least offered some apology.

Please consider editing your post.

By the way, the number of people who have signed the petition now stands at nearly 9500.....:ok:!

NutLoose 8th Feb 2009 19:24

Seems to be gathering speed, see

Message boards

What really peeves me is a council is a body elected by us to serve the people that employ them, NOT the other way round.


Its ok saying nail it on the house, but that does not give independance and what happens when the Grandparents go on to a better place free from Government intervention.

Double Zero 8th Feb 2009 19:39

Beagle,

maybe you're being a bit hard; I think 'thegypsy' is referring to myopic government talk rather than any persons' disability. ( no fan of Bown either, but reckon all politicians and heads of forces much the same )...

BEagle 8th Feb 2009 19:46

Myopia and monocular vision are hardly synonymous, Double Zero.

Making light of any disability is reprehensible.

Out.

thegypsy 8th Feb 2009 19:48

NutLoose

You appear to be another person who does not understand that Planning Officers are Council Employees and are NOT elected but are there to enforce planning regulations set by Government.

A petition will serve no purpose.


Many years ago I got outline planning permission for a house in my garden and the Parish Council and others all got a petition against it after planning permission had been passed but it was all a complete waste of time and too late as the decision had been made and had already been granted. It would have cost the Council dear to abrogate it.

DX Wombat 8th Feb 2009 21:56

Some Good News For A Change
 
Good to see various MPs, including the PM, doing the right thing. Looks as if their tactics may have worked. :ok:

NutLoose 8th Feb 2009 22:26

Yes...Disabled soldier's home approved - , - Latest news & weather forecasts - MSN News UK

racedo 8th Feb 2009 22:46

Sounds like decision was already made so bandwagon got jumped on.

Or am I just a cybic ?:hmm:

fallmonk 9th Feb 2009 05:25

Bloody disgarce it had to get to that stage BUT am glad its came good at last !
Not many times i can say it but well done the PM and the opisition leader for there phone calls (leaning on) to the councilers :ok:

Al R 9th Feb 2009 08:06

I accept, to an extent, the point made in the previous thread about rules being rules.. but they're also there to be applied with common sense and compassion, and in this instance.. that just wasn't done. The Council's thinking that the work would be 'intrusive' simply defies belief. The ultimate example perhaps, of local nomenklatura being out of touch.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/sussex/7878329.stm

If you're reading this Joe, you probably 'just' think you were unlucky enough to be in the wrong place at the wrong time but we and your council owe you far more than just bricks and mortar. Good luck in your new home.

dakkg651 9th Feb 2009 12:46

Just listening to Jeremy Vine show.

Sounds like Noel Edmunds has beaten the drum for Joe big time.

Well done that man.

Al R 9th Feb 2009 12:47

Whatever you think about him, hats off to Noel Edmunds for getting stuck in (although you have to >> to 5'30" to watch him get a real head of steam up).

YouTube - Joe Townsend Noels HQ

cazatou 9th Feb 2009 13:26

thegypsy

Perhaps you may wish to consider an apology.

I will not, however, be holding my breath.

:=

airborne_artist 9th Feb 2009 13:47

And some more positive news:

Soldier becomes first amputee to guard Queen - Telegraph

PPRuNe Pop 9th Feb 2009 16:09

the gypsy

The petition will make no difference!

Where were you when the one that AARSE and PPRuNe worked on when the Dorking/Ashtead fiasco for SSAFA to buy a £1m house went awry?

It worked then and it would work now. Hundreds and hundreds of e-mails and letters have gone in to Wealden Council and they must now realise what the minority of objecting councillors have done.

Anyway, the fat lady seems not to have quite sung yet. But watch out if they renege on their utterings today!

This will not be the last time that the voice of the forces and ex forces are heard, and red faces are made where the action is most needed.

BEagle 9th Feb 2009 16:36

12105 people have now signed the petition....

Latest from the Wealden District Council website:


9 February 2009

Joe Townsend Planning Application Statement

We have always recognised the huge sacrifice that Joe has made and have been wholly committed to working with Joe, his family and their planning agent to ensure that he gets the home he needs and deserves.

Immediately following the planning decision, we approached Joe's Grandfather and wish to work with him to reach a solution which is acceptable to everyone. We have agreed with the family that we will meet at their earliest convenience and that meeting will take place this week.

"With a successful outcome from that meeting, we will do everything possible to make sure his application is determined without delay, " said Councillor Roy Galley, Cabinet member for Strategic Planning & Housing Delivery.

"Working within legal timescales, this could mean a decision in principle as early as the end of next week.

"Whilst our immediate priority is resolving this issue for Joe, we are also deeply concerned that there is no specific Government planning guidance in the matter of special arrangements for injured servicemen," he added.

" We will therefore be urging the Prime Minister to reduce the chances of any other council being caught in a situation where there is a heart-rending pressure created by a badly-injured service man or woman needing special accommodation in an area where planning policy directs it to be inappropriate."
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...rnet/zxzxz.jpg

:hmm:

The Fat Lady* has yet to sing........




*This is not a slanderous reference to any particular councillor!

racedo 9th Feb 2009 16:54


The Fat Lady* has yet to sing........




*This is not a slanderous reference to any particular councillor!
Yeah we understand:ok:

Any connection to someone living or braindead is entirely deliberate.


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