Lyneham Eng Wing Re-Org
 

Well, I was at the meeting and we're doing it again!

24/30 Eng Sqn & 47/70 Eng Sqn
(formerly HLS & FLECS)
(formerly 24/30 & 47/70 Eng Sqn)
(formerly ALSS & BLSS)
(formerly LSSA & LSSB)

are merging to form one engineering sqn.

I asked the question, and believe I have permission to decide the name of the new outfit.

Words to use:-
Hercules
Engineering (or Rectification)
Squadron

(should be able to make Horse out of that, all we need is Arse)

er...that's it. No w*nkwords permitted

But hang on a minute

70 Sqn will be the first A400M outfit, so...

24/30/47 Eng Sqn

Add them all up, and what do you get?

101 Eng Sqn

And what site will we be working on at Brize? You've guessed it.


All suggestions welcome

Three Squadrons equals a Wing. Lets call it Line Engineering Wing.

Then Engineering Wing can be a Group... ;)

Honours for Change
 

Maybe you'll get an MBE or OBE for helping to reinvent the wheel.

Come on N Joe - you must have a contribution on this one!

When you do eventually end up at Brize we can all be:

Tankers
With
Air
Transport
Squadrons

:rolleyes:

12tpi,

I know this is thread drift, but your post reminds me of the Training Wing Audit Team created many years ago by the Rock Apes at Catterick. It wasn't until they had painted OC TW*T in the boss's car parking space that they had a rethink!:ok:

Ok, bosses speeches aside, is this good or bad? Realistic or promotion driven?

Does anyone really care? That's the way it is these days!:bored:

Nothing is New
 

"We trained hard, but it seemed that every time we were beginning to form up into teams we would be reorganised. I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganising, and a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress, while producing confusion, inefficiency, and demoralization."

Caius Petronius, AD 66.

Hercules
Obscurely
Reshuffled
Scheduled
Engineering
And
Rectification
Sqn

Best I could do for now... Better adjectives beginning with O, anyone?

Air Transport Operational Service Support Engineering Resource

Wont the have to re organise to repair the cracks that have appeared in the wings of the J Models? Talk of the fleet being grounded soon if they continue.

Sounds like reorganisation for the sake of it by sombody chasing promotion. I can think of a similar reorganisation of another more well known unit at the same base that has gone through the same trouble and emerged with a more tendy and punchy name which has proved to be of no benifit to the organisation or customer.

Maybe not this time

Staish and OC Eng were at pains to point out that they requested and needed the help of the SNCO's (this was a meeting in the Sgt Mess)

(Cauis Petronius was a SNCO)

Both gave polished and brave performances with only a couple of slip-ups. Staish may later regret suggesting that engineers don't work very hard, but he is after all, aircrew. And OC Eng used a couple of w*nk words.

I'll forgive him for saying something about 'blue sky thinking' and I have 'big handfuls' of respect for being able to stand in front of 100 disgruntled SNCO's and take questions for 2 hours.

We were even 15 mins late for twofers!

However...

Much in the same way that the OJ Simpson car chase trumped the opening of the Olympics -

Twofers clashed wth a section Xmas party, and a young buxom lass demostrated placing a pint pot in her cleavage and yamming the contents, thus trumping the following morning's crewroom discussions. How shallow. Apart from her cleavage, that wasn't shallow.


Anyway, I'm thinking we're all working for the turd polishing department.

Hercules Engineering Sqn, Turd Polishing Dept

Epimetheus

Never one to pass up an invite, I would like to say "about time too". It's over two years since the last reorg. I'm not there to help this time, but would like to offer my top 10 lessons-learned from the last time:

1. Take the 24/30 signs off the hangar wall straight away. Hide them ready to use when the sqn reforms.
2. Get some random civvy that's never been near an airfield to facilitate the reorganisation (RAF engineers can't do it, as they think it's more complicated than "ac lands, ac gets fixed, ac takes off again")
3. If one of the SEngOs raises concerns, pat him on the head and say in your most patronising voice "Poor SEngO, he just doesn't understand, does he".
4. Kick the engineers out of at least one hangar and give it to the suppliers, or to a local businessman, or both.
5. Offset the loss of hangarage by giving the engineers mini-caravans to live in.
6. While the sqns are trying to cope with the chaos, steal some of their junior ranks and send them to guard Bentley Priory.
7. Remember, reorganisation "is the day-job".
8. Put J/K cross training of the sooties last on the to do list.
9. Once it's all finished, promote OC Eng and award him (her?) an OBE.
10. And don't forget to promote SPHLC too!

N Joe
:ugh:

I'm going to break with tradition and suggest that those who are in a position to do so draw a line in the sand, acknowledge that another re-org is counter-productive, and instead look to better utilise available assets without the superficial attraction of renaming everything.

Are these people not busy enough FFS?

Even better, how about the ProjO for anything that 'requires' renaming goes to see his 1-star, and if the rename/re-org sounds like a load of old bolleaux, said ProjO is demoted. I suspect this might be an antidote for superficial nonsense...

:*Oh deep Fu**ing joy..... Now, where have we seen this before, it fail miserably, and now we are doing it all again!! Why do we never learn? :ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh:.. Bollox to it, 2 and a bit years to do, not interested anymore, can't wait to get out :(...

How about everyone that isn't an officer simply refuses to do anything not related to making the planes fly?

And the officers have the backbone to support them...

What will they do, court marshall and lock up the entire station?

se·di·tion:-
Pronunciation:
\si-ˈdi-shən\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Middle English sedicioun, from Anglo-French sediciun, from Latin sedition-, seditio, literally, separation, from sed-, se- apart + ition-, itio act of going, from ire to go — more at secede, issue
Date:
14th century

: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority :=


Hat, coat, door...

The late RETDPI Senior ( A 39 Entry Halton Brat), reckoned that it was the introduction of Centralised Servicing in the early 50's (plus National Servicemen) that drove him to despair and out into civil life.
Incidentally he often reminded me that Cauis Petronius (Arbiter) committed suicide: "In order to avoid being assassinated".

There's humour in there , somewhere.

SERCO?
 

Hows about SERCo?

or

Shared
Hercules
Initiative
To
Hone
Every
Attitude
Detrimentally
Staff