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Paul C 19th Jun 2008 05:33


You may have better luck tracking down a Vampire which your Sqn also flew in the distant past.
There is one on a certain internet auction site for 500 pounds at the moment!

Fishtailed 19th Jun 2008 12:12

I've heard that the Lightning at Samlesbury is to be broken up, along with the Canberra, so I'm sure the Company will give you all the help they can, as long as there are no H&S issues!!!:rolleyes:

scottc 19th Jun 2008 12:24

5Sqn Pilot

Check your PM's

Scott

jimgriff 19th Jun 2008 12:56

I can suppply the ejection seat for one if your short!:hmm:

sycamore 19th Jun 2008 17:24

I think there might still be a certain S`Engo`s chair in the `Stackers` at Lyneham ,and a cushion if he`s that short ,Jim.....!

BEagle 19th Jun 2008 18:55


I have been tasked by my Sqn boss to try and locate a Lightning ac to be used as our sqn gate guardian. I have already contacted the Lightning Preservation Group in order to put the word out. It was suggested I might try to put up a post on this site.
A gate guardian should be representative of the station's history, not just something previously flown by a new squadron somewhere else in bygone times....

The EE Lightning, fine jet that it was, has utterly no relevance to RAF Waddington.

Chris Kebab 19th Jun 2008 19:06

Good point BEagle; can't off hand think of a similar "sqn" guardian with no station connection.

So why a Lightning over an ex 5 Sqn Javelin?

harrogate 19th Jun 2008 19:10

The pic mentioned earlier...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2322/...c3720559b6.jpg

It's for sale in looooooaaaaads of formats here, along with some other rather lovely snaps of Lincolnshire and Yorkshire...

http://www.redbubble.com/people/badd...still-on-guard

Some of the sales proceeds for this image go straight to charity (hence another shameless plug).

Ace.

BlackadderIA 19th Jun 2008 19:15

It's not a guardian for the Station - it is going outside the Squadron and as such is representative of the Squadron's history.

23 have got a Phantom and how many of them flew from Waddo?

(Brampton have also got a Phantom and they haven't even got an airfield!)

Green Flash 19th Jun 2008 19:21

Benbecula has got a Phantom too!

H Peacock 19th Jun 2008 19:24

Oi Beagle.

Having read your post in detail, I feel you have made yet another posting blunder. Are you telling me that if a Sqn moves to another Station it no longer has a claim on any of its previously operated 'hardware', or have you once again launched feet first into a thread without reading the opening post correctly!!!

I shall await your post retraction and/or apology.

:ugh: :ugh: :ugh:

Green Flash 19th Jun 2008 20:21

I suppose you wouldn't want them to display the Sqn silver as it too has no connection with Waddo? An extremely churlish reaction, if I may say so. Sorry Beags - wrong.

BEagle 19th Jun 2008 20:27


Are you telling me that if a Sqn moves to another Station it no longer has a claim on any of its previously operated 'hardware'
Definitely. The gate guardian should have relevance to the station's history. Waddington has an unfortunate precedent with the early E3 mob trying to ignore those who came before them - and who were an integral part of Lincolnshire life for decades.

XM607 is the only proper gate guardian for Waddington - new kids on the block can wait another quarter century before they can challenge that heritage.

Green Flush, my comment has absolutely nothing to do with Mess silver....

That 23 have one of The Crows' old F4s as a mascot is equally irrelevant.

Green Flash 19th Jun 2008 20:37

..... :hmm: .....

BlackadderIA 19th Jun 2008 21:25

So if they call it a mascot and not a gate-guardian can they have one then?
(no gates nearby anyway)

Could be the last? 19th Jun 2008 21:27

It may have been posted already, but why not try and rescue the one sat next to the A1 Grantham/Newark area!! It would give the JP something to polish other than his rocket!!!!:ok:

BlackadderIA 19th Jun 2008 21:34

I feel that one may need just a bit more than a polish!

Fire 'n' Forget 19th Jun 2008 22:26

Beagle,

All they want is an airframe representing the squadron history to sit outside the squadron building. As 5 sqn now has a lot of army types is that wrong?

As for the "early E3 mob trying to ignore those who came before" What a crass statement, are you trying to say that no-one at Waddington on either squadron cares about the history of the station? or know about the aircraft that operated out of there?

as for "That 23 have one of The Crows' old F4s as a mascot is equally irrelevant"

No its not irelevant, who pays for the upkeep of that airframe? That airframe is the history of the squadron/RAF.


Let go Beagle, enjoy your retirement and stop the sniping. It gets tiring when ALL your posts have the undertone 'It/We were better in our day':hmm:

BEagle 20th Jun 2008 16:19

Probably because it 'were'?

At least a Lightning saved from the scrap heap parked outside the sqn would be better than an old cannon, or a stuffed horse or whatever else the pongos might wish for...

Fair enough if it isn't the station gate guardian, I'll concede.

But when the E3 was first at Waddo, it was cetainly true that a certain knob announced that the station 'was now an air defence station' and tried to do away with all traces of the V-force era.....

And my apologies to OC 5 Sqn for being rather rude....:=

Safety_Helmut 20th Jun 2008 16:28

Moved to Waddo in the mid 90's along with several hundred others from sunny Cambridgeshire.

At arrivals brief, young ginger haired OC GD announces that we are all there to support the E3. Grizzly old Flt Sgt in audience says "I'm not", followed by virtually everyone else in room saying the same. OC GD went redder than his hair.

S_H


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