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Polikarpov 30th Mar 2008 22:26

English Electric Lightning, still setting records.
 
Well, maybe not the aircraft itself this time but as the vehicle of choice for the first blind chap to break the sound barrier (courtesy of Thunder City).

:ok:

Yahoo News


Miles Hilton-Barber piloted an English Electric Lightning, climbing to 50,000ft in under two minutes.

He and a sighted co-pilot flew upside down in the skies over Cape Town, South Africa, reaching speeds of up to 1,100mph.

The 59-year-old from Duffield, Derbyshire, said: "I am celebrating at the moment. I am one of the happiest and most fulfilled blind men in the world. The rush was incredible. It was just wonderful. Of course, I couldn't see anything but my co-pilot told me that when we flying upside down at 50,000ft you could see the curve of the Earth."

Alber Ratman 31st Mar 2008 01:06

First man to be blind and fly supersonic.

I Bet Stevie Wonder would argue that one

or any other blind person that has flown in Concorde.

I am also sure the Thunder City aircraft are South African Civil registered, so are NOT Military.

Try again:ok:

polyglory 31st Mar 2008 07:03

Still nice to read though:)

Come the day would love to do the same myself, sadly fat chance of that:eek:

False Capture 31st Mar 2008 08:30


"I couldn't see anything but my co-pilot told me that when we flying upside down at 50,000ft you could see the curve of the Earth."
Co-pilot! Who's he kidding? I imagine he's refering to the commander/captain of the Lightning.

splitbrain 31st Mar 2008 10:51


Originally Posted by false capture
Co-pilot! Who's he kidding? I imagine he's refering to the commander/captain of the Lightning.

I imagine he got carried away with the excitement and just threw in a term without considering its actual meaning in aviation.

angels 31st Mar 2008 12:10

What's the point of nit-picking in a story like this? What does it achieve?

Good luck to the bloke!

ZH875 31st Mar 2008 12:33


Originally Posted by angels (Post 4014931)
What's the point of nit-picking in a story like this? What does it achieve?


Actually, what does the story achieve?, how does the 'pilot' know he has flown at that height and speed?.

And finally, who actually cares?

mr fish 1st Apr 2008 14:47

well, i care for one. the last great british supersonic fighter cannot fly in the uk but is still flown with its balls attached in south africa. how many did the springbocks buy again???:{

JEM60 1st Apr 2008 15:24

Butting in here [not mil aircrew] but to put the record straight, the Springboks didn't actually buy them. They were bought by a very rich South African business man named Mike Beachyhead, who acquired four of them. I went down and filmed them flying two years ago [only two flying then] Well worth the trip, although it was a holiday, not just aircraft. Mr. Beachyhead recently sold a 51% share in his operating company[Thunder City} to a Mr. J. Cauldwell, who was the founder of Phones4U, I believe.Hope you didn't mind my posting. If you did, apologies.

L Peacock 1st Apr 2008 19:50

A 'feel good', pro-aviation story immediately stamped on by a few mean-minded pedants.

I hope he had a great time.

sluf goat 2nd Apr 2008 11:18

top man
 
Good luck to the chap, the rest of u miserable knockers s*d off :D

mustpost 2nd Apr 2008 21:31

sluf goat
 
Couldn't agree more, but intrigued by members (like your good self) who joined this august forum in times past, don't post often and then someone pushes your button and you react (in this case correctly IMHO). Wots the secret - eternal patience?? B**sh*t filter?
Please carry on though :8

Old Fella 3rd Apr 2008 08:26

Blind Flying
 
My only comment is to ask the question "How many of the "knockers" have ever been in a Lightning?" The "knockers" comments seem like a whole lot of petty jealousy. :ok:

Zoom 3rd Apr 2008 14:07

Apart from being a reasonable achievement by Miles H-B, it is one hell of a responsibility for the owners and the pilot. What if there had been an incident requiring a rapid egress or an ejection? These are things that sighted people could take in their stride but would be quite risky for a blind one.

GPMG 3rd Apr 2008 14:12

I would think that the majority of 'ejecties' shut their eyes and pulled the lever anyway so I doubt ejecting needed eyesight, landing might break a few bones though.

Getting out after a crash is a different issue though.

JEM60 3rd Apr 2008 16:09

I would imagine he signed some form of indemnity in respect of damages etc.,

newt 3rd Apr 2008 21:36

I could but wonder how long it would take to make this wonderful acheivement into an "Elf and Safety issue!"

I think it is fantastic that somebody with a will to live and enjoy the finer things in life can actually acheive their ambition! Sighted or not, it is a wonderful experience to fly one of the finest aircraft ever built!

So all that knock go get st####ed! If you have not done it, then dont knock it!!!!

Wingswinger 4th Apr 2008 06:50

Agreed newt. I was taken for a ride in a T5 at Coltishall when I was a spotty 19-year-old UAS cadet. It's an experience I remember vividly to this day.

The sad thing is that the flying Frightning, an RAF icon, is in SA and not the UK where it belongs.

mothflyer 4th Apr 2008 07:44

Heard an interview with the guy on BFBS here in Germany last weekend... had the excitement of a little boy in his voice. Who cares that he didnt use the 'correct' aviation terminology, we all know he's not a pilot, surely this has no relevance. Maybe the 'less educated' folk should google him. The guys an adventurer, motivational speaker he raises funds... damn good fellow by the sounds of him.

What a great experience for him.. but what I cant understand is why you guys critisise a story highlighting someones acheivement and personal goals, especially this guy who seems to have an unbelieveable drive to acheive things even us fully sighted folk will never acheive!

I admire the guy and am happy for him... whilst he's up there acheiving his goals and having a damn good time he's surely giving inspiration to other less able bodied folk!

Keep up the good work :ok:

angels 4th Apr 2008 12:08

moth - fine post mate. Wish I was as articulate. :ok:


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