National Union of Teachers vote to stop MoD recruitment in Schools
 

Shocked and definitely not in awe.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle3618018.ece

A quote:

"We would have material from the MoD saying, Join the Army and we will send you to carry out the imperialist occupation of other people’s countries."

Imperialistic Occupation, and thats from a teacher, heaven forbid!

I really hate to say it....
 

Is it possible that the article actually makes some good points?
It pains me to agree with the NUT in any respect... it really does. But if you read the article they make some fair points about life in the modern armed forces.
I'm NOT saying I agree with what they are suggesting, just that I am glad that the points they make are being made.

Any idea how many schools still have a Combined Cadet Force? That will be the next thing these teachers will want to be disbanded.

The vast majority of CCFs are in fee-paying schools. I very much doubt you'd get a member of the NUT teaching in a fee-paying school - the NUT is somewhat to the left of Tony Benn :ok:

Perhaps the military should pass a resolution calling for the NUT not to interfere with post education career choices for the masses and only to involve itself in negotiations regarding the terms and conditions of employment for its members, or am I being silly........

We are talking about a trades union and not a political or lobbying organisation are we not......

I'll get my coat

HEDP

"It must be obvious from every other NUT Conference that the NUT does not represent the vast majority of teachers' views and opinions. The NUT negotiating body represents teachers in salary and condition negotoiations, and the Union has many commendable policies and advice on Education. But the Conferences are simply days out and forums for the extremist political voices of the Union. Very few teachers take any notice of the hot air that emanates from the Conference, which provides the media with some jolly good stories!

Terry, Bath, UK"

:D:D:D

If the teachers behind this have mainly seen, "It's great, you get to see the world, do (whatever the trade is), great times, great mates" etc, and AVOID talking about the less savoury bottom line issues (getting killed, wounded, fighting even if you don't agree with the cause), I can see why they think that way.

On the other hand, a management person wouldn't include in their sell, "You might die early through stress", would they. I don't think there's any harm in raising AWARENESS in schools that the armed forces have some good jobs to be had. But the recruiters should give at least some idea that it's not just a great job without mentioning the danger factor.

As we've been at war for 5 years, seems at the moment that the public know all about the hazards anyway. So I think it's a bad decision. One up for the veggie quiche brigade.

Shock horror - NUT full of bearded, sandal wearing, Maoist-Trotskyist, CND supporting pacifists. So what's new?

The good news, if the teachers are against the kids will be lining up to find out what they want to hide from them.

I don't think State Schools are a very fruitful source of military recruits anyway. Hundreds of thousands of pupils leave them without any worthwhile grade of the pathetic GCSE exams and even those who are selected for military training have to have a 12 week remedial reading, writing and maths course to get them to standard where they can even start to be trained.

Whilst I would not wish for a natural disaster requiring the help of the military or another extended fireman's strike, it would provide an opportunity for these lefties to see some advantage in having a military force.

One also wonders at the views expressed by some of them that '16 is too young'. Well, at that age they are probably several years into an active sex life, have got drunk many times and are probably experimenting with several drugs. A bit of good old fashioned military service would do all of them a power of good and might just rectify the years of indiscipline at the hands of these teachers.

Who knows, if they all did three years or so as they had to with National Service, we might end up with a better society to live in.

Is that ISS? Or would that be a sweeping statement?

CG (Headteacher of this parish, whose pupils leave primary at 11 not requiring a 3 month refresher before moving on.)

And yes, the NUT conference-goers are tits.

Storm in a tea-cup?
 

Anybody know what power the NUT has to stop visits by the Armed Forces to schools? I would have thought that it was down to the school governers and the Head Teacher to decide, or am I being too traditional?

When I were a lad, several of the teachers at my Boy's Secondary Modern school were ex-servicemen - and proud of it! Not only were they bl00dy good teachers, but they also knew how to handle the troublemakers. Sadly, that generation have long gone, and look what they've been replaced by! It's no surprise that so many state schools are failing these days.

Maybe this government should consider giving currently serving military personnel, who have instructional skills, proper accreditation and maybe some financial incentives to entice them into the teaching profession?

Err no - ISS doesn't include maths! ;)

STH

Yes. None. They could ballot for industrial action, but they look daft enough already on this topic.

CG

Would not be the Impressionable youths with Knives that they need airport metal detectors that they are worried about is it.
I heard on the radio this morning that its because they are told lies that they leave after four yrs.I wonder if its just the fact that they come across something that their not used to or can handle like Discipline.

MoD site for lesson plans:

http://www.defencedynamics.mod.uk/

RANT ON

The NUT are simply an anagram with the C and S missing. These lefty scum should concentrate on educating the illiterate and inarticulate generation we see on street corners. I managed to pass my O Levels despite them, not because of them. They were on strike for most of the year leading up to the exams. Most have never done a proper job, and are therefore unaware of what goes on in the 'real world'. I can't wait to leave the military, but at least Ive spent the last 20 years helping make history, instead of commenting on it and making judgements.

Oh that's better.

RANT OFF

Short memory?

Didn't say it would count for much when I leave. Try reading the post.