Air Start unit required.
 

Ok, so the funds are in the pot, the possibility of air show appearances has been offered as a reality, what do TVOC need to ensure this all takes place, seems it is dependent on a rather ancient air start unit that is even older and more decrepit than I am, ‘Mutters quietlyinot beard.’

Anyway you lot, somewhere out there sitting under a pile of some other non descript items is a redundant unit, someone, somewhere will know of this item, who owns it and maybe be able too convince them to donate same, how’s about it.

STAD 12a or there was a nice small unit, which flamed out after three engines were started.

I had one at RAE Bedford SFD, and one wheel fell off, at least it was light enough to pick the unit up and refit it.

Anyway, sod the Palouste or STAD and use the wonderful on-board Rapid Air system, that way, Joe Public gets the best of all worlds, and the anti noise brigade will have something to complain about.

Apologies for the obviously daft question, but how did the engines get started for the previous flight tests ?

Judging by their finances, by pointing the airframe into the wind, opening up the taps and holding burning tenners in the intakes.

Did i read somewhere that a Rover Gas Turbine had something to do with Vulcan bombers?:confused:

I don't know about Vulcans, but the Rover gas turbine was used to power a portable fire pump used by the Royal Navy, see http://www.corestore.org/turbine.htm

http://www.corestore.org/rover1_sm.jpg

Rover Gas Turbines Ltd developed the 1S/82, which was rated at 82 hp, for the Vulcan, not sure if it made into service.

I see, i only ask as i have a Rover Gas Turbine.

Rover developed a few Gas Turbines over the years, the most famous one 2S/150, from the Rover P6 Turbine Car, ended up in the Nimrod, still in use today.

The Vulcan AAPP (Airborne Auxiliary Power Plant) was indeed a Rover, and usually called 'Rover', as in Start the Rover.

AAPP
 

The Vulcan AAPP provided electrical power and an air supply for the Air Vent Suit System. Normal engine start was by external air supply (Palouste) or rapid start by the internal high pressure air bottles. Once one engine had been started it could be used to provide air to start the remaining engines.

YS

The Argosy had a Rover Gas Turbine APU in the left boom.

Didn't I see a palouste behind the Buccaneer on one of its photo calls? They use the same bit of kit.

Might be worth giving GEF in Akrotiri a call. You will be surprised what they have hidden the hangars, (some of them still painted yellow)!!!!

It seems to me that there are already a few Vulcans which have engines running for displays/preservation!

How do they start their engines?

Ask the VOC or "Southenders" for a Loan of their Paloustes/SPADs?

There is a new bit of kit, bit expensive though, that we use on the 10. One of those 'run at destruction speed' things you see down route that would start the QE2, that are used for multitype aircraft. Bring back the palouste, it may be old but it did the job, (shame about the spares shortage).

Needed a Minimum of 2 Palouste to start a mighty L1011