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GOLF_BRAVO_ZULU 10th May 2008 07:59

It's good to see you chaps have totally grasped the concepts of Joint Operations. :ok:

glad rag 10th May 2008 09:16

Amazing how a thread can morph so much.

A proud old ship (and her crews from over the years) now tarred by the bleeding WAFU, once again bleeting on about the "seajet" :suspect:

exscribbler 13th May 2008 16:28

The Mighty X is indeed a proud old ship - just look at the photos in this month's Warship World to see her leaving Gib at 25 knots! IMHO the WAFUs aren't bleating about the SHAR - they're trying to point out the error of the ways of the MoD in scrapping it so early. And anyway, WAFUs never bleat about anything.

BTW, I was talking to a Scottish guy on the Gare du Midi in Brussels last Monday (a long story) and he tried to tell me the Tornado is to be navalised for the one new RN carrier, He also said two carriers will be built but one will go to the French.

Comments, anyone?

glad rag 13th May 2008 16:36

"I was talking to a Scottish guy on the Gare du Midi in Brussels last Monday"

I can definitely deny that one for sure!! :}

fake wafu 13th May 2008 16:59

I nearly choked on my near-beer when I read that the Tornado might be navalised after all these years. I hope they beef the hook up.....

blue monday 13th May 2008 19:08


I nearly choked on my near-beer when I read that the Tornado might be navalised after all these years. I hope they beef the hook up.....
The German Navy flew them of carriers so it has already been navalised.

exscribbler 13th May 2008 19:23

Said Jock also seemed convinced that only 4 T45s will be built; if so we can forget Defender and Duncan. If they're cancelled, that's jobs lost in Scotland - but then the money has to be found for today's backtrack on the 10p tax rate. :ugh:

I couldn't believe a navalised Typhoon, either. Mind you, I sometimes find it difficult to believe a land-based one.

How many carriers has the Bundesmarine? :E

Having lit the blue touch paper...

WE Branch Fanatic 7th Jun 2008 14:10

Royal Navy ships at sea with no guided missiles on board

Two Royal Navy destroyers could not fire their missiles if they came under attack – because they have been removed to save cash.

The News can reveal that Portsmouth-based Type 42s HMS Exeter and HMS Southampton have been working without their Sea Dart guided-missile system since Christmas. To go with the cutbacks, at least half a dozen operating crew have been transferred to other ships.


I believe similar issues also exist with other ships. :mad:

scarecrow450 7th Jun 2008 16:56

"The German Navy flew them of carriers so it has already been navalised"

Really ??? that must have been the carriers called GNAS Schleswig and
GNAS Eggebeck !!

The German Navy Tornado's that I worked with at TTTE must have been
the first sleath navy Tornado's as they looked just like normal Tornadoo's !! :mad::mad:

dunc0936 8th Jun 2008 01:52

Said Jock also seemed convinced that only 4 T45s will be built; if so we can forget Defender and Duncan. If they're cancelled, that's jobs lost in Scotland - but then the money has to be found for today's backtrack on the 10p tax rate.

They have to build those two ships, I have always wanted something worthy being named after me lol

Duncan

spheroid 8th Jun 2008 07:56


Two Royal Navy destroyers could not fire their missiles if they came under attack – because they have been removed to save cash.

The News can reveal that Portsmouth-based Type 42s HMS Exeter and HMS Southampton have been working without their Sea Dart guided-missile system since Christmas. To go with the cutbacks, at least half a dozen operating crew have been transferred to other ships.

I believe similar issues also exist with other ships. :mad:
What a fantastic "non" story. How about another headline....


RAF JET FLIES WITHOUT WEAPONS

SOLDIERS CARRY ARMS WITHOUT AMMO
Its not news that we are short of weapons or money.....

Rob_1707 8th Jun 2008 08:33

Doesn't seem to be out of service.

Link.
http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/server/...onWebDoc.12968

Same goes for HMS Southampton.

Link.
http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/server/...onWebDoc.12883

dunc0936 8th Jun 2008 09:00

Just for my own interest, how much would one of these cost if sold??

Duncan

D O Guerrero 8th Jun 2008 10:12

Spheroid - your examples are not quite the same thing...
Seems to me that your argument could extend to deploying SSBNs without Trident - it would be easy to get some out to the boat if they were really needed surely?:ugh:
The whole point of having a Navy is that is can remain on station for long periods... which is why Ships generally deploy with stores that are suitable for the unexpected. I guess the significant part of the fleet that sailed from Gib for Op Corporate were fairly thankful that they were fully armed beforehand. Returning to the UK would have been slightly inconvenient...

XV277 8th Jun 2008 11:10


Originally Posted by Navaleye (Post 3983993)
The sharpshooter of the Falklands Campaign. Two A4s at 250ft at 19 miles, 1 Learjet at 41,000 ft, 1 Canberra at 38,000 ft. Farewell old girl, you did us proud.

Certain HMS Cardiff personel would dispute the Canberra claim!!

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=67322

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/sho...2&postcount=20

Magic Mushroom 8th Jun 2008 11:21

The blue on blue by Cardiff was Gazelle XV377 iirc, shot down in the early hours of 6 Jun 82 with the loss of its crew. RIP.

scarecrow450 8th Jun 2008 11:59

"Gazelle XV377"

XX377 perhaps ?

HalloweenJack 8th Jun 2008 19:25

unless they`re in the habit of `shooting down` a SR.N5 Warden (XV377) then you might well be correct..... ;)

Lurking123 8th Jun 2008 19:32

Widger, you seem to have neglected to mention the SH chaps. I'm pretty sure the BN crew took part in Corporate.

spheroid 8th Jun 2008 20:06


Spheroid - your examples are not quite the same thing...
Seems to me that your argument could extend to deploying SSBNs without Trident - it would be easy to get some out to the boat if they were really needed surely?:ugh:
The whole point of having a Navy is that is can remain on station for long periods... which is why Ships generally deploy with stores that are suitable for the unexpected. I guess the significant part of the fleet that sailed from Gib for Op Corporate were fairly thankful that they were fully armed beforehand. Returning to the UK would have been slightly inconvenient
2 Points.... Firstly, the ships taking part in Springtrain had already expended weapons during the exercise and therefore were not fully armed prior to being dispatched south. BUt that isn't a problem because thats what RFAs are for ...

Secondly....how long was resolution in service patrollomg the ice before it had poseidon fitted ????


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