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Early Stacker 7th Mar 2008 15:08

ACM Park Statue (Merged)
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...on/7282183.stm

Gets my vote:ok:

PPRuNe Pop 7th Mar 2008 18:09

I will be voting for the great man for he was such a man. A brilliant tactician and without a doubt loved by his men. At the age of 9 I lived within 3 miles of Croydon, and within the sight and sound of the battle fought there and overhead my home.

No modern art in a place that has so much history please. Save it for the man whose leadership saved us all.

Jackonicko 7th Mar 2008 18:22

I absolutely support the idea of having modern art in central London, though I haven't liked any of the stuff that they've put on the fourth plinth so far.

In Trafalgar Square, with the surrounding buildings and the other monuments, however, I'd say that we need something in keeping with what's already there - a traditional, representational bronze statue of some kind of military geezer, preferably Georgian, preferably on a horse.

No-one's going to stump up for a new statue of some so-far unrecognised Napoleonic war general (Cornwallis or one of the other Generals from the Indian theatre in the 1790s or early 1800s), however, so Keith Park has some merit as a distinguished military man, and perhaps his part in saving London trumps the fact that he wouldn't (presumably) be on a horse, bewigged or frock coated.

This ought to be a campaign that everyone could get behind.

Sign up at:

http://www.sirkeithpark.com/petition.aspx

polyglory 7th Mar 2008 18:43

Duly signed,

A very deserving choice indeed:ok:

Archimedes 7th Mar 2008 19:16

Park could be on a horse, JN - he transferred to the RFC after being blown off the horse he was riding (as an officer in the Royal Field Artillery) and sustaining injuries which the War Office medics declared made him unfit to ride a horse. So he looked for another job, discovered being unfit to ride was no obstacle to becoming a pilot, and the rest, as they say, is history...

Chugalug2 7th Mar 2008 20:04


We, the undersigned, are aware that there is no permanent memorial or statue to Air Chief Marshall Sir Keith Park GBC, KBE, MC and Bar, DFC, RAF who was in direct command of the pilots and all those who helped them defend London, the South East and the whole country from invasion during the Battle of Britain in 1940. We are aware that there is a suitable statue currently being commissioned and agree that a suitable position for this statue to occupy is the 4th Plinth in Trafalgar Square, where Sir Keith Park would join other heroes.
Thanks for the link Jacko, duly signed. Given the wording of the petition (above) I think he rather outranks your 18/19th Century worthies, even minus wig or horse, and in two hundred years time might be better known than today!

Eject!Eje.... 7th Mar 2008 22:01

... Signed. A long overdue memorial.

JT Eagle 7th Mar 2008 23:48

And the funny thing is that the current occupants of two of the plinths, Havelock and Napier, are more remembered in New Zealand for the towns named after them (two in the case of the former). I believe that the authorities there were quite keen on getting those statues if they were deemed no longer needed. I am all in favour of Park, not just for the BoB, but, it can be argued, because he saved Malta as well, and was fairly shabbily treated at the time.

JT

D120A 8th Mar 2008 14:08

Before we submit this petition, to what will be I suppose in the first instance will be a number of faintly uninterested and pedantic civil servants, can I gently ask that we get his rank correct, which is Air Chief Marshal with one 'l', and his principal decoration which is a GCB and not 'GBC'?

Hope it helps.

Brewster Buffalo 8th Mar 2008 19:00

Isn't there a statue of Dowding in London already...why not put that on the plinth??

Chugalug2 8th Mar 2008 21:05


Isn't there a statue of Dowding in London already...why not put that on the plinth??
Er...because the object of the petition, and of this thread, is to put a bronze statue of Air Chief Marshal Sir Keith Park GCB, KBE, MC and Bar, DFC, RAF (check D120?) on the plinth, isn't it...???

Mystic Greg 8th Mar 2008 21:10

Proposals for a permanent occupant of the 'fourth plinth' have been appearing on-and-off for as long as I can remember. A statue of Sir Keith Park is the most worthy suggestion I have heard to date, so I'm another who has signed up to support the campaign.

Tocsin 10th Mar 2008 16:49

Signed, and will be forwarding the site address to a few auggie mates.

I saw the original article in the FT - it came from an unexpected quarter, but I heartily agreed with the sentiments.

OCDave 10th Mar 2008 17:08

Signed, and will be passing on the link to a few friends, and members of the UAS I'm in.:ok:

Samuel 11th Mar 2008 18:48

Oh, the irony
 
I'm all for the statue of ACM Park; it's long overdue in my opinion, but there is a certain irony in the issue of a statue for a famous New Zealander at a time when the UK Government is about to remove ancestral rights of New Zealanders to access visas. They're lumping New Zealand, [and Australia] in with all the free-loaders and bludgers of the EU.


Recently, the Government published a Green Paper on immigration and citizenship that raised the question of whether the ancestry visa should be abolished. This is a consultation document and is not final policy; but since it is the second time in four years that the Home Office has suggested scrapping the ancestry visa, someone in Whitehall clearly considers it to be expendable.

The Green Paper states: "Given that the proposed immigration system provides explicit routes to the UK for those coming as economic migrants, family members or refugees, we need to decide whether a Commonwealth national’s ancestral connections to the UK are sufficient to allow them to come here to work without the need to satisfy a resident labour market test. We are therefore asking this question as part of the consultation contained within this paper."

1.3VStall 11th Mar 2008 19:20

Petition duly signed - a worthy cause!

goudie 12th Mar 2008 10:27

Trafalgar statue
 
From the Daily Telgraph.
A pilot who played a key role in saving Britain from Nazi invasion should be honoured with a statue in Trafalgar Square, say campaigners.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/grap...ilitary208.jpgLeigh Park believes a statue could honour the sacrifices of all Commonwealth troops


Air Vice-Marshal Sir Keith Park fought in the battles of Gallipoli and the Somme before injury forced him to join the Royal Flying Corps, where he achieved at least 20 kills against the Germans.

The Helpful Stacker 12th Mar 2008 10:38

Well it has to be better than a statue of ex-terrorist and now everyones best mate Nelson Mandela.

Whilst his cause was a noble one his means pursuing it was despicable to say the least and should really strike home more so in these troubled times we now live in.

Dan D'air 12th Mar 2008 11:10

There certainly weren't any pilots who looked like that during the Battle of Britain!!!:O

noregrets 12th Mar 2008 13:41

Fixed-pitch prop in the Battle of Britain?

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