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Hot Charlie 28th Mar 2008 13:00

Assuming 101 keeps the 10s going until 2015ish, then one would assume another identity would be taken up. 44 or 57 perhaps?

pr00ne 28th Mar 2008 13:07

10, it's a magic number...................................................

Roland Pulfrew 28th Mar 2008 14:02

Surely it will go on seniority (cue debate on how the RAF calculates seniority). Assuming that 216 (16 RNAS) Sqn will be around beyond 2015, then it falls to 10 and 101. IIRC 101 has the edge on seniority.:E

Jackonicko 28th Mar 2008 14:15

Cough! 206. Cough!

South Bound 28th Mar 2008 14:16

Surely the aircraft will arrive in a stagger allowing a serving sqn to convert to type, or must we really go through the faff of 'standing up' another sqn only to watch one be stood down a few months later???

rolandpull 28th Mar 2008 20:46

Question. Will all these jets operate under a civvy AOC?

RS30 28th Mar 2008 23:51

May I suggest a brand new trade name for this contract...

"I can't believe its not charter!" :suspect:

ScufferEng 29th Mar 2008 08:01

I would be surprised if it were 101 Sqn as I assume there will be some overlap when the FSTA comes on line. However seeing that running the mighty Vickers fun bus is bankrupting Northern Rock -eh sorry....the government, they may choose to retire the old girl at the first oppurtunity.:D

BlackWater01 28th Jan 2009 10:17

KC767
 
... any latest news about this never ending italian tanker story?

BEagle 28th Jan 2009 10:56

The last I heard, they were still having problems with the AAR pods - something rather essential on a tanker. And I've yet to see any photos of it conducting any wet offloads to receivers through the pods.

The Italian aircraft (converted airliners, not full-up KC-767As) seem to be blessed with the same 'no windows, crap seats' Rendition-class passenger seating as most other Yank tankers. Nice... Narrower cabin than the A310MRTT too. Which, of course, has proper airline seating.

I understand that the Italians might get one 767 later this year?

They trusted Boeing. Wadda mistake-a to make-a!

Jig Peter 28th Jan 2009 14:08

Italian tanker refuels
 
Beagle, I think I saw somwhere last week a shot of the Italian KC-767 refuelling from a KC-135 (but not giving any out from the pods ) but I can't remember where ... Another very late programme making justa leetla bitta progressa ???

Brain Potter 28th Jan 2009 14:23

I understand that the IAF wanted a windowless, austere seating arrangement to prevent the aircraft being being nabbed for VIP transport duties. It may seem like a strange decision but their internal politics are notoriously complex.

At least they were wise enough to specify a freight door and a receiver capability.

Jackonicko 28th Jan 2009 14:51

Hush! Hush! Whisper who dares....

The 206 numberplate won't be available, as the mighty octopus is soon to make a return in sunny Wiltshire......

BEagle 28th Jan 2009 15:07


I think I saw somwhere last week a shot of the Italian KC-767 refuelling from a KC-135
Are you sure it wasn't Boeing's picture of one KC-767 refuelling from another?

The KC-30A has also been successfully practising contacts against the A310MRTT; the A310MRTT has been refuelling fighters for several years now and the KC-30A has also conducted wet offloads.

Whereas, unless I'm very much mistaken, the KC-767 has yet to refuel anything except from the boom.

NURSE 28th Jan 2009 23:52

or should we tag onto the US Tanker order when they go for the Beoing 777?


Personally I think PFI should be scrapped and we buy the airbus product.

Farfrompuken 15th Feb 2009 19:17

PFI bailout:"PFI 'may need government funds"
 
BBC NEWS | UK | UK Politics | PFI 'may need government funds'

Looks interesting.

As predicted, really.

Guzlin Adnams 15th Feb 2009 20:13

:E Will be interesting to see McCyclops and his band of near do wells squirm and spin now. Try to justify less a/c when there aren't enough to start with.

BEagle 15th Feb 2009 20:28

Oh dear, what a pity, never mind.......

No wonder the OzAF realised that PFI was an utter crock and that they needed to buy their own tankers.

And next, perhaps that utter nonsense of MFTS?

pr00ne 15th Feb 2009 22:46

"Oh dear, what a pity, never mind......." indeed............

With the Tories very probably soon to take office they REALLY must be rueing the day they invented PFI..............

BEagle 16th Feb 2009 07:48


With the Tories very probably soon to take office they REALLY must be rueing the day they invented PFI..............
Perhaps. But years of nuLabor have continued to perpetuate the folly.

The MFTS business model must look somewhat...:\...'interesting' right now.

How lucky you and I were to go through training when the RAF could afford all those Chipmunks, Jet Provosts, Gnats, Varsities etc, as well as QFIs to fly them and military aerodromes from which to operate them.


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