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Mr Rotorvator 11th Dec 2007 15:03

I was a rotary mate, I went to war (after a fashion) and these F3 boys need some form of proper regcognition:D...outstanding behaviour, in the very finest traditions of the RAF. Green Endorsements for each of their logbooks!

Bob Viking 11th Dec 2007 15:05

Mr Rotorvator
 
Please refer to my previous post!!!
BV:rolleyes:

goudie 11th Dec 2007 15:13

When did RAF Officers start calling each other mate?

Our Brave Lads have mates, Officers have colleagues or chums surely.

In With The Fin 11th Dec 2007 15:32

Really!
 
Oh come on chaps, really!

I think some people might be taking it all a bit seriously, delving into personality analysis and defending the stereo type.

It's been only two days since I had to hand back a Land Rover that I purloined and kept for a while. Admittedly, I wasn't drunk, (a G&T is a bit hard to come by here) but I would have been if I could and I am very much a serving officer.

Oh, and no I wasn't arrested, the IMP's put it down to ....... high spirits!

:=

Op_Twenty 11th Dec 2007 16:40

The Timberlake concert was obviously a mistake, but we've all tried to commandeer a limo post a few lagers (Vegas 04, 06, maybe 07 - don't remember). F3 guys on det are just like the rest of us - a bloody good laugh albeit a bit of a liabilty sometimes. There but for the grace of God etc... Don't pretend you've never done something like that because you have, and if you have not, well then who are you to comment anyway. Good luck to those boys, I only wish I could've been there. (Post concert obviously)

minigundiplomat 11th Dec 2007 16:43


Blimey MiniGunDiplomat you may have got your entry in just in time for next years Oscars, great theatrical post there.

I hope the rest of HM forces read this, no in fact the rest of the worlds forces need to read this as well, just so they can put everything on hold untill you get back.
I speak collectively. There were over 40 IRT call outs each month over the summer in Helmand. For every death reported on TV, multiply the injured by 5, multiply the ANA/Kids we pick up in all sorts of states by 10.

The military is trying hard to draw public attention to our plight at the moment (some of us are chronically underfunded).
This is not the attention we need. Particularly as it occurred in a Muslim state.

I work bloody hard, I don't wish to be tarred with the same brush as these retards.

spanners123 11th Dec 2007 16:51

I'm sure that most of us on pprune have been involved in similar events, woke up the next day, realised what you have done, thankful that you haven't been caught and all agree not to discuss the matter again!
These things happen, on det, at home and on leave!
From my experiences, all 3 services are the same!

TheInquisitor 11th Dec 2007 16:54

I'm sure that, should the need for Air Defence arise in AFG or Iraq, the F3 boys would be working as hard out there as the rest of us. We cannot blame THEM for the fact that they aren't living their lives out in the desert at the moment, so comments along those lines are void I'm afraid.

Also, they weren't there representing ANYONE. They were on downtime and chose (unwisely, of course) to attend a concert for pre-pubescent girls. Their presence there was as private individuals spending their free time as they choose.

So let's cut the crap here chaps. I'm pretty sure the limo DIDN'T have "Property of the Sultan's Brother" emblazoned on the side of it as it was waiting outside the hotel / arena / whatever, probably surrounded by cabs and a myriad of other vehicles waiting to pick folks up. I'd also bet that the lads didn't get into the driver's seat and try to nick it, rather jumped in the back and tried to offer the driver a wad of US$ to take them back to their accommodation.

*NOTE - I'm obviously only guessing here - but then again, so is the d1ckh**d journo who wrote this piece.

Typical Arab state security forces over-reaction to a non-incident here - I'd put money on it.

Alber Ratman 11th Dec 2007 17:17

TAXI!! Oh, this Limo will do..

The story isn't quite the same scale as 1 Sqn's exceedlingy short stay in Mardrid.

danieloakworth 11th Dec 2007 20:17

Inquisitor:

Nail on the head.

insty66 11th Dec 2007 21:23

I am making no judgment on the "UAE 3" except to say Timberlake hahahahahahahahahahahaha.

However

Also, they weren't there representing ANYONE. They were on downtime and chose (unwisely, of course) to attend a concert for pre-pubescent girls. Their presence there was as private individuals spending their free time as they choose.
Is never true. Once you're in uniform the standards expected of you never change, why else would anything an individual does in his/her own time be mentioned on an appraisal?

It is naive to expect our professions to be ignored if we do something wrong/stupid and get caught.

N Joe 11th Dec 2007 21:30

We've had "Bravo Two Zero" and "Tornado Down" so now surely "Foxtrot Three" and "The One That Got Away (2)" must be in the pipeline.

N Joe

Lamenting Navigator 11th Dec 2007 21:35

Ah, happy days. Pass me another cocktail, my good fellow, I'm in for a long night!!

(If anyone writes my story, or alludes to it in any way, I want royalties!!)

Double Zero 11th Dec 2007 23:24

I happened to know ( unfortunately, due to the person involved not his service or rank ) a Navy Gunnery Officer who got trollied on an island in the 'Med, took the UK Ambassadors' car - presumably inc. the bootful of Essex chocolates - and comprehensively stuffed it on the way down a steep hill...as does seem the way, he must have had the right chums, as he seemed to get away with it...*

We all know about inter squadron / service rivalries, stealing the Tirpitz bulkhead etc etc, to be commended in my remote view, but this is very different and in a situation requiring a certain amount of professionalism even when local customs do not seem to deserve it.

*That was a long time ago in a different place - as people rightly say, let's not judge by tabloid, but every indication seems we have 3 esteemed pillocks here, - the note about posting a shark-watch, in more boring circles perhaps known as dedicated driver, seems a crucial lack of forethought or friends - 3 who UK Ltd could very well do without...

Yes I am hypocritical to the extent that if anything truly nasty were threatened to happen to them, I'd be up in arms - I suspect the reverse thrust on their careers is more than enough to pay.

cargosales 12th Dec 2007 00:06

Spot on Double Zero
 
As I said before, there is a time and a place for high spirits.

Getting trashed in a country where it is illegal to be pissed in public isn't a brilliant idea. Add in something unheard of over there (interfering with the personal property of a member of the ruling family) and one is just asking for trouble.

Granted, any expat over there would have taken one look at the number plate and run a mile (VVIPs tend to have very, very! short registration numbers), but to be fair, these jokers probably didn't have that experience.

To look at it a completely different way, I wonder how many of those who have commented here in support of the three would be up in arms if a few pissed foreigners, on a night out in say, London, had made their way into one of our own Royal family's limos?

Would they be complaining that plod had incarcerated said pissed-up foreigners and were going to prosecute them for anything and everything that might just stick? Oh, they're actually foreign military aircrew? Well that's ok then.. lets just release them as it was obviously just high spirits. Hmmmm.

Most likely said complainants would be grumbling at the lack of security afforded to Brenda's family instead. But my point still stands.

Bob Viking 12th Dec 2007 07:08

Cargosales
 
Can you honestly see a bunch of p1ssed blokes getting anywhere near a Royal limo in Britain?! Nice analogy but I think you speak b0ll0cks on that one!
This is why I think the whole story sounds like a load of cr@p which has been blown up out of all proportion. Having been to UAE myself quite recently, I would hazard a guess that if the car in question really was so important they wouldn't have been allowed anywhere near it in the first place. Can you honestly see an Arab VIP (with all his cash and resources) leaving his prize motor outside a concert venue with the keys in the ignition and the doors open! In the words of uber-brat Macauley Culkin in Home Alone.....
"IIIIII don't think so!!!"
BV:rolleyes:

Pontius Navigator 12th Dec 2007 07:26

BV, nice one

OK Chaps, just 3 months to come up with another original jolly jape, see if we can get more coverage, beeb as well?



PS, anyone read the full story in Gulf News the online newspaper? Thought not.

SaddamsLoveChild 12th Dec 2007 08:00

house arrest?
 
House arrest in a 4/5 star hotel..........I hope they manage to claim it back on JPA.

D-IFF_ident 12th Dec 2007 08:38

PN - do you mean this one: http://archive.gulfnews.com/articles.../10173101.html ?

Couldn't get to the end of it I'm afraid.

And I used the Gulf News search engine to try to find any other relevant articles - tried 'dum', 'daft', 'stupid', 'drunk', 'high spirits', even 'aircrew' - but couldn't get a hit. Do you have a link? :p

Mad_Mark 12th Dec 2007 08:54


They were on downtime and chose (unwisely, of course) to attend a concert for pre-pubescent girls.
Maybe that is why they went :\


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