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Fortyodd2 6th Dec 2007 10:08

You couldn't make it up!!
 
Oh dear!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770

:ugh:

Try and keep the expletives down in your replies.......................

Crash alot 6th Dec 2007 10:21

dunno what else to say other than its a sad sad state of affairs shows how much of a joke goverment realy is

Bob Viking 6th Dec 2007 10:22

God, that man is ugly!
 
That should be reason enough to hate him (Des - although Gordon's not exactly a fine oil painting!) surely?!
I'd give him a slap based purely on the size of his earlobes!
I really can't think of anything nice to say about either of them!
BV:mad:

brakedwell 6th Dec 2007 10:25

With his vast experience of military matters he is grossly underpaid.:E:E:E

airborne_artist 6th Dec 2007 10:34

Gentlemen - I've just emailed my MP on the matter. Please do the same, as regardless of your political leanings, the fact that the SoS for Defence is not 100% committing his time to his sailors, soldiers and airmen is an abuse of their dedication and commitment.

BluntHawkMan 6th Dec 2007 10:52

I don't think it will make a rat's a*** of a difference but there is a PM's petition...

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/SoSDefence/

Hot Charlie 6th Dec 2007 11:01


dunno what else to say other than its a sad sad state of affairs shows how much of a joke goverment realy is
I'd like to agree, but sadly, unlike our present government, jokes are normally funny.

They're a disgrace.

D-IFF_ident 6th Dec 2007 11:07

In my spare time I enjoy writing novels. I'm not very good at it but would like to earn around 100K each year. Which JPA function should I use to claim my earnings from my second job, which is entirely unrelated to my primary?

:ugh:

Al R 6th Dec 2007 11:15

Don't forget, Swiss looks after Scotland inbetween the evening news and Eastenders, so technically, he is entitled to a full MoD salary. :E

What an absolutely stinking crock of corrupt ****. I despise the whole corrupt, lying, self serving lot of them with so much passion and energy, that you could wire me into the National Grid and I'd be able to light up my local.

sitigeltfel 6th Dec 2007 11:18

I though that the first duty of any government was the defence and security of its people. To have it relegated to a part time post speaks volumes of Broon and his sense of direction.

Anyone know how many of the current batch of Labour MPs have seen service in any of the armed forces?

Al R 6th Dec 2007 11:27

Not many.

But not to worry, they're making it up as they go along anyway.

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/...7-12-05a.186.3

Have they really got no inkling of how many people they're going to have, or need, beyond 2008? :confused:

D-IFF_ident 6th Dec 2007 11:56

A suggested template for your MP
 
A link to writetothem.com:

http://www.writetothem.com/

Makes ity easy to contact your MP.

Cut and paste pne of the templates that follow.

mutleyfour 6th Dec 2007 11:58

Thanks for the link Al R, I voted No surprisingly

airborne_artist 6th Dec 2007 11:58

What are you on D-IFF?

I wrote:

"It's hard to know where to start with this government, but the fact that Des Browne continues to hold two ministerial portfolios is a total abuse of the hard work and commitment of the Armed Forces at this time.

Swiss Des as he is known within the forces (compare him to Swiss Toni of the Fast Show - http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/fastshow...iss_toni.shtml ) appears to show no understanding of the total insult to Service men and women that this arrangement delivers to them in spades.

I hope you and your Parliamentary colleagues will continue to highlight this situation.

All the best

AA"

Tigs2 6th Dec 2007 14:39

How about

Dear MP

I read with great interest the fact that the S of S for Defence is paid his salary by the MOD, despite only working two days a week on Defence, the rest of the week being employed as S of S for Scotland. On having the matter raised in parliament The PM stated his Confidence in Des Browne saying that 'he was a hard working, committed individual, who could do two jobs at once'.

Well Mr MP, i have a proposal! As precedence has clearly been set, I suggest that all members of the armed forces should be allowed the same option, that is to don their uniform for two days a week, whilst being paid a 100% salary by the MOD. The other three days of the week, they could find some other gainful employment of their choosing. Just like Mr Browne, the members of our armed forces are also hard working, committed and able to do two jobs at once (in fact at the moment, most of them are doing 4 or 5!)

As Mr Browne refuses to step down as S of S for Defence in favour of a full time appointment I believe the above proposal to be entirely fair and reasonable. I am still bemused as to why we have a full time Culture Minister, but a part-Time Defence Minister.

Bob Viking 6th Dec 2007 14:43

Tigs
 
Your last sentence just about sums it up for me.
An absolute bl00dy farce as far as I'm concerned.
BV:mad:

Captain Gadget 6th Dec 2007 14:52

Well someone's got to have some fun with this...
 
See what Gordie and Swiss Des have been up to today...

http://www.elfyourself.com/?id=1194346480

Gadget :ok: :ok:

mr fish 6th Dec 2007 15:55

would it be asking too much to have a defence minister with service history,or would that be classed as a conflict of interest?:bored:. bunch of powermad f:mad:rs

Rocket Chucker 6th Dec 2007 16:11

There's another point of view
 
We all know only too well how high up Big Gord's priority list the services sit. I think that if we complained that the Scottish Secretary is spending too much time concentrating on defence matters this will strike a chord - Broon wouldn't want to upset his constiuents now would he?

He might loose his seat - with any luck.

Per Ardua

Al R 6th Dec 2007 16:15


Mutley said: Thanks for the link Al R, I voted No surprisingly
Sweet, its now standing at 24 against. :}

Thanks Tigs. Its all too easy to forget to speak up..

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/

.. but with your work, I have no excuses. I'll now fire something off.

Dear Quentin,

I am given to understand that the S of S for Defence is paid his salary by the MOD. However, despite working two whole days of each week on the Defence of the Realm, I was surprised to note that the rest of the week he is employed as S of S for Scotland. The PM has affirmed his confidence in Des Browne saying that 'he was a hard working, committed individual, who could do two jobs at once'. Which is nice.

However, as precedence has clearly been set, I have a suggestion. Could you table the following motion please? I would like you to stand up and remind the PM that the members of our armed forces are also hard working, committed and able to do two jobs at once (in fact, at the moment and as a direct result of the cuts imposed by your latest party, most of them are currently doing more than that). I propose that all members of the armed forces be granted the same terms and conditions, ie; they can don their uniform for two days a week, whilst being paid a 100% salary by the MOD. The other three days of the week, they could find some other gainful employment of their choosing.

As Mr Browne refuses to step down as S of S for Defence in favour of a full time appointment I believe the above proposal to be entirely fair and reasonable, don't you? I subscribe to 'They work for you', and will be keen to see how you address this issue on behalf of your many military constituents and their families. I am copying this to the editors of our local newspapers and look forward to seeing a refreshingly honest performance from you, on our behalf.


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